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Am I missing something? The only mention of "rationalists" in this article is a note about how this cult leader considers rationalists to be her enemies. What's the relevance of your hostility towards them?


About ten years ago, Ziz participated in a workshop (multiple workshops? not sure) organized by the so-called rationalist community in the Bay Area. Later she was banned from the community, organized a protest against it, got briefly arrested, faked her suicide and disappeared... now appeared again...

She also recruited some of her cult members from the community (not sure which ones).

So, if you want, you can frame it as the rationalist community being a dangerous place that attracts sick people. Or you could frame is as anarchists being violent, vegans being intolerant, or trans women being crazy... because the Zizans are all of that. Everyone is free to chose their own story about them.

It may or may not be important that most rationalists / anarchists / vegans / trans women are not crazy murderers, so maybe the story is mostly about Ziz being Ziz and succeeding to get a few (less than ten) followers.


They are apparently a "a radical offshoot of the rationalist community"[1].

I suspect that as with many off-shots they hate the original community.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vermont-border-agent-death-expo... is a better, longer form of this article

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_David_Maland


"Ziz"'s old blog: https://web.archive.org/web/20230315071531/https://sinceriou...

It seem they were a fan of Eliezer Yudkowsky and maybe Nick Bostrom (although a bit unclear) but they hate MIRI

LessWrong has a summary of their involvement: https://www.lesswrong.com/w/j-lasota-ziz


Yet another episode of "people who think Elizer Yudkowsky isn't a lunatic are as batshit insane as he is".

Calling themselves rationalists are more ironic than a concentration camp having a sign promising freedom to those who work.




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