Yea, they should at least get credit, if not an ongoing donation. AFAIK SomaFM runs entirely on user donations, so rebranding their service without even mentioning them seems kind of crass.
Wow. I didn't know about this (or might have, as I an obsession with trying to hunt for interesting online tools/services/things, but had never tried). Thank you for mentioning it here! This is awesome. I am loving 'Suburbs of Goa' station. Will explore more.
oh wow, nice to see that Digitally Imported is still in business. I used to listen to them like 20 years ago when it was still possible to stream DI through WinAMP :)
I started listening to them in the late 90s or early 2000s. These days I've been a subscriber for years. I even one time did their fun little puzzle they had in their view source that was a recruiting tool. (I did let them know I did it, but wasn't on the market lol)
I used to listen to Digitally Imported's Eurodance station a lot 10-15 years ago, but eventually it felt like I just kept hearing the same songs, that they never added any new music to it.
havent all the PDs across the country switched to encrypted radio coms? and how is this supposed to be relaxing when you could hear a cop screaming for backup after being shot in his pelvis?
In SF, the initial dispatch is still in the clear. But a lot of EMS/Fire traffic is unencrypted, as is certain "event" radio traffic. The SF Police Commission doesn't want SF to have a totally encrypted radio system for accountability reasons.
Doesn't have to be getting shot, but I'd say that the probability of non-routine calls that could disrupt your focus is much greater for police radio then for ATC, so it's good that OP chose ATC instead...
You got it backwards, cops rarely ever get shot, its the cops doing the shooting of others. The vast majority of cop injuries are self-inflicted from trying to play out their action movie fantasies driving their cars recklessly and getting into accidents, with a few "They broke my hand with their face/skull" thrown in. And even then their injury rate is still significantly below regular blue collar workers.
Thank you for contributing to the enshittication of the web. We keep our streams open so our listeners can easily and freely access us, unlike most other internet radio services. But if things like this get any traction, we're going to have to start restricting them.
We are paying for your little hobby. SomaFM pays close to $100k a year now on music royalties. We pay based on a per-listener, per-song basis. Sites like yours cost us money even when someone only checks it out for a few seconds.
SomaFM is a tiny organization, we're not some VC-funded startup.
Sure, I understand, it’s just proof of concept and I selected your platform as one of the best ones, I will pause the stream for now, is there anyway we could chat, if you’re willing to?
You are costing us money. We have to pay royalties to the artist for each person who hears even part of a track. We do not have ads in the streams.
Why are you being so stubborn about honoring our request? Why not play creative commons music, embed SoundCloud tracks, or make your own music mix and pay the royalties on that.
Don't steal our content (that we have to pay royalties for each listener on) for your "proof of concept".
My bad, what I thought will be little experiment turned out to something bigger, I really appreciate and respect your work, I took my lessons out of this, stream changed to SoundCloud, in the future I consider to use AI generated chill music stream if there will be any good one soon.
Thank you and I apologize one more time, SomaFM is a legendary and something that I love personally, all the best, Olzhas Y.
P.S. Please tell if there is any other questions left.
This is just a crappy ChatGPT-generated site ripping off the SOMA FM _Groove Salad_ stream (https://somafm.com/player24/station/groovesalad). What's the matter, is creating something original too much work for you? Have to go rip off someone else's work because you're too damn lazy to put in the effort?
Who are you judging here? It’s my experience and experiment, I’m glad for the feedback and have my takeaways out of this, do you want to share something meaningful or just came to share hate?
Yeah, I used to use LoFi ATC, but it stopped working. Built something to scratch the itch: https://tonygaeta.com/labs/atc-lofi. OP’s design is solid—great site with good options.
Don't get me wrong, but I think this is a perfectly good place for a feedback, since you made the Show HN post. There is no need to redirect users to Google Forms.
It was actually more a technical question, the site uses LiveATC streams, there doesn't seem to be any specific reason to limit which stream the user chooses, I was just wondering if there was any particular reason for it. Maybe you could include an 'advanced' section where users can enter their own stream code (e.g. not 'ksfo_twr' but 'lhbp_app2' or whatever?
ATC works for me but not music, I get the following error in the console:
Playback error: DOMException: The media resource indicated by the src attribute or assigned media provider object was not suitable
Edit: Added Airport and chill music station dropdowns.
I thought it wasn't really cool to embed these streams from volunteer-run (both), donation-supported (SomaFM) and grift it with BuyMeACoffee/Product Hunt. And when SomaFM doesn't like it and reasonably blocks it through CORS, to proxy around it. And not respond to anyone bringing it up here.
Yeah that one made my laptop absolutely chug. I want to listen to the page while reading a writeup of why such a simple graphical effect is so inefficiently rendered.
UPD2: I want to thank HN for the great feedback, and I'm very glad many people liked the service, there is couple of agreements that are under review at the moment, so you might face some interruptions of the stream, I'm working on stabilizing it, hopefully this will be solved soon.
Olzhas, Please remove Groove Salad (and/and any other SomaFM stations) from your site. Not sure what you mean by "agreements that are under review" but stop trying to get around our blocks.
This is very good indeed! Anyways I've been working with stuff like "Apollo 12 – Lunar Lift-Off/Rendezvous/Docking/LM Jettison (Full Mission 20)
" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfAgzy-TW1g as background :)
When I turned on the music and chatter, the first audio that played was of a chimpanzee wildly shrieking for about 2 seconds. The song which played after was “Sonargaon” by Daniel Masson, which as far as I can tell does not include that audio. Maybe someone at the KSFO Tower was having a bad day. Very funny.
Brilliant idea. Although I can't seem to connect to get air traffic audio.
I'm weird and often listen to 3 music track simultaneously for optimal flow state / concentration. Typically chillwave|retrowave at high volume, then a couple of other music tracks at much lower volume (if they contain lyrics, I usually like it if I can't distinguish words, so my brain's internal dialogue isn't competing).
The music selection is indeed quite good, but I would try to make sure that there are no vocals in the music — those overlap with ATC too unpleasantly for me.
He's abusing LiveATC.net and somafm.com 's bandwidth, as well as royalty payments made by somafm.com (See comments on this page from rustyhodge, the operator of somafm.com), giving him "coffee money" is encouraging the thievery.
I can't and wouldn't argue with what you say here, but:
a) I donated twice as much to somafm
b) His connecting me with somafm was worth the donation to him. Besides, as an aspiring sw artist, I like to sow good karma seeds.
That said, I would recommend he pay out his sources both fairly and according to their terms. Their terms are their choice, and we should respect them.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. We live and we learn, when we're at our best.
Thank you so much for the support! Really appreciate it, this is my first launch ever and I really glad to see that people love it and even support it! <3
UPD: You could disable cloud animation, button is added to the top panel, thank you for feedback everyone, hope you're enjoying it! Please share any other suggestions or feedback if you could.
Approach/Departure is SCT (SoCal Tracon), ZLA is Los Angeles Center (en route/ARTCC). While there'll be more traffic, it's still spread out across a bunch of sectors that are each typically their own feed.
Hopefully OP is going to give them some (a lot of?) money, considering there's a promiment link to Product Hunt that says "Launching soon", and nothing on today's Internet is made just for fun anymore, but for $$$$.
Oh yeah the ATC radio is also directly from liveatc.net servers, which says on their site: "NOTICE: Third-party use of LiveATC live audio streams is prohibited." and this site probably violates many points on https://www.liveatc.net/legal/ (unless, OP did get their permission to do this...).
Yes, it's kinda same, ATC communications have a specific rhythm and cadence, the speech is professional, neutral, and emotionally detached, combination with ambient music creates an audio cocoon that helps easily get into flow state and increase your productivity
They even have a similar station: https://somafm.com/sf1033/
But it’s the SFPD police scanner + chill beats instead of ATC.