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Bluetooth in general is (and has been) broken forever.

Look at the comments on Google rewriting their Android Bluetooth stack for the fourth time.

> I know the guy that heads up the team that did this work -- he and I spent 2+ years fighting Broadcom's old, god-awful bluetooth code. Our whole team used to play what-if games about replacing the thing while massive code dumps came in from vendors, making the task ever larger.

> I had to write a service on the RPI and the only way to reliably connect was to restart bluetooth before every attempt.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26647981

Apple has finally gotten fed up enough to roll their own Bluetooth/WiFi hardware implementation, which is a huge undertaking.

It is said to start shipping this spring.

> Apple is switching over to a new Bluetooth and Wi-Fi chip that it designed in-house starting in 2025, reports Bloomberg. The combined Bluetooth and Wi-Fi chip will replace components from Broadcom

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/12/12/apple-custom-bluetooth-...



> "Apple has finally gotten fed up enough to roll their own Bluetooth/WiFi hardware implementation, which is a huge undertaking."

This has more to do with do with Apple wishing to pay less for WiFi/Bluetooth chips than wanting to fix bugs. They've gradually been replacing more and more silicon with their own designs for years, and tomorrow we'll likely see the next step: the debut of Apple's 5G radio chip.

Personally I have no issues at all with Bluetooth on my iPhone 13. It seems rock solid to me and never disconnects unexpectedly. (I do have some long-standing, annoying but relatively minor, issues with Bluetooth audio on macOS though).


The 2025 iPhone SE is said to be the first shipping device for both the new Bluetooth/WiFi chip and the 5G modem.

Cost is certainly a factor, but it doesn't take a lot of searching to find people designing and building devices saying that the existing third party hardware and firmware implementations for Bluetooth are problematic.

I don't think the Android/Pixel guys were daydreaming about ditching Broadcom for no reason.

I seem to remember discussions the Google Glass people posted here about their own issues with keeping a stable Bluetooth connection with the available third party Bluetooth chipsets.


We'll know soon whether 2025 iPhone SE 4 basebands get pwned as routinely as existing iPhones.


Adjacent: didn’t the founder of Ubiquity pitch this concept to Apple and failed which is why he left to found his own business?




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