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It's probably a violation of their EULA.

Why are you continuing using the app if you don't agree with their EULA?




At least for consumer software, an EULA is quite literally "throw some shit at the wall and see what sticks in whatever jurisdiction".


Yeah.

"I don't care what the EULA is, I just throw money at the company who has written it."

and later

"OMG they are raping me with their EULA! Halp!"


Some people might not have a choice. Also, fuck their EULA.


Yay, ye old "i don't like these rules therefore I fuck the rules" argument. Love it!

btw, step 2 is always "OMG that guy doesn't like my rules. Fuck that guy!"


EULAs means nothing some countries.


It's not enforceable, but EULA is still: "this is the software we made, here are our expectations for the software, this is what you should give us for the right to use the software". And by buying the software you say: "I agree to exchange our expectations about the software."

and later you say

"Hey, you can't force me, fuck you!"


And a country's laws are "here are the expectations how companies should behave in our country", yet companies routinely violate those and write extortionate EULAs that ask for more than they legally can, using their team of lawyers to create a legal knot that they expect lay users to untangle.

Fuck them, and fuck the idea that contracts are morally superior to laws. We see how contracts (and EULAs) are used.


Like you've said, companies have lawers, so I don't think there's an EULA that's illegal. The volume and hard to read nature of EULAs is legal and it's actually not possible to write EULA in an easy to read language, because easy to use language is not strict enough to defend itself in the court.

You trying to fuck the company only shows that you're doing the same thing as the company does, only mirrored. Yet you're the one that's morally right?

The only winning move is not to play.


> Like you've said, companies have lawers, so I don't think there's an EULA that's illegal.

They include terms in the EULA that are unenforceable, and let the users figure out which those are. Most users don't have teams of lawyers to go over every EULA for every minor purchase, so they are tricked into relinquishing rights even when the law forbids such terms.

> You trying to fuck the company only shows that you're doing the same thing as the company does, only mirrored.

Trying to hold on to my legal rights (in this case not getting spied on by a very expensive product) is not "fucking the company", except in an utterly backwards moral code where trying not to get scammed and exploited is equivalent to scamming, just because the former involves breaking a corporate-written piece of paper that reads "we get to scam, exploit, and spy on you, and you give up your right to sue us for it".

> The only winning move is not to play.

Meanwhile companies lobby for favorable laws (banning users from examining how stuff works, i.e. reverse-engineering, banning circumventing DRM even for use that is otherwise within your rights, allowing mere EULAs to relinquish your right to even hold the company accountable in court, i.e. mandatory arbitration, etc.) - they sure don't think just giving up is "winning". But they're more than happy to let you think that, while they stack the deck even worse. You are their ideal customer, that will just bow his head and take any abuse dished out, and the most they can fear from you is that maybe you'll instead buy from someone else next time.




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