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Ah yes, no one trades SNAP purchases for cash. I cannot roll my eyes harder


No one made that claim. That is a strawman argument.


You say the government found a tiny amount of fraud as evidence there is not fraud. My counterpoint the government doesn't have systems in place to ensure there is no fraud, and I know there is massive fraud, because I am friends with people who do this fraud. Why am I friends with them? Because I am an active member of my church and I help these people, and I know the way they work the system in order to earn cash.

Additionally, I own many rental properties. Some of them I have rented via Section 8. And I am a good landlord, and my tenants trust me. So I sign their forms, and help them work the system, and I don't make them pay me the cash portion of the section 8 because I'm rich and I don't need it. I know how the scams work, the disability, the SNAP, the "my niece lives with me so I get extra payments". It's so incredibly easy to scam the system.

I don't like this! I don't like the fraud! I'm not reporting these people, but it's so ingrained into the process it's just commonplace. I don't want an entire society of people who refuse to get gainful employment because it would jeopardize their welfare benefits. The system is fucked


You put a great deal of prose behind it, but what you have said is “don’t trust data from the administrators of this program, trust my personal anecdotes”.

That is not and should not be a compelling argument to anyone, for anything.

Surely if fraud on the scale you fervently believe exists, someone is tracking it. Until you can present that evidence, there is absolutely no reason to treat your beliefs as even probable.

Beyond that, by your admission you are a landlord who engages in crypto speculation. Two markets that provide you with profit that would be heavily stifled by common sense regulation. There is ample reason specifically to distrust anything you claim on this issue.




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