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One aspect that I find alarming about gender dysmorphia as a diagnosis is that it seems to pathologize gender non-conformity. For example, in some circles it's more acceptable to be a trans man than a "butch" woman. And the diagnostic criteria for gender dysmorphia might put a butch woman in the "trans" bucket if she were to talk to a doctor.

To me this is a betrayal of what feminism was after in the early 2000 - namely moving away from rigid gender stereotypes.



What we're witnessing is active malice against two populations: people who are dysphoric and would like help to be comfortable in their own bodies, and people who are perfectly comfortable as they are and would like the rest of us to accept that they will not take measures to change their trans-gender physical characteristics.

What we need is a campaign with a firm message of "hands off, all of them."


>>What we’re witnessing is active malice>>

What do you think brought on this malice? What would cause 99.5% of the population to suddenly have malice against 0.5%? Was it spontaneous?


Wealth inequality and the resurgence of fascism pressing it's monied thumb on the Overton window.


Ok, then how does that work, exactly?

In 2021 a survey by the Pew Research Center found that about 4.5% of U.S. adults identify as gay, but when asked what percentage of the population they believe is gay, Americans on average estimated around 20%. Similarly, a study from Britain's NHS found that British youths were 50 times more likely to suffer from gender distress since 2011. To back that up, Reuters worked with Komodo Health recently and found a 3 times increase the diagnosis of gender dysphoria from 2017 - 2021.

So with this context as a backdrop, and knowing that fascists and their money were behind it, did they manipulate narratives to create an impression amongst Americans that there are 5 times as many gay people as there actually are? And did they also create a sudden surge in demand for gender affirming care?

Tactically, how did they go about that? Did they takeover Hollywood? The media? Was their plan to create a narrative that normalizes the fringe so as to ignite hatred towards that fringe? Sounds like a pretty clever chess game.


Billionaires experiencing midlife crisis and andropause started receiving gender affirming care, the same enjoyed by the military and law enforcement for decades, were courted by the fringe to amplify their ideas to disaffected people failed by the institutions that created those billionaires. The fruit of your individual merit is threatened by these chemically altered silver-spoon fed man-children threatened by mortality filling the greedy black hole in their psyche with your unexamined acceptance. But feel free to instead focus your ire on the current analog for "the Rootless Cosmopolitan" that is the source of all of your perceived discomforts. Make no mistake, I understand that there is a greedy black hole in the minds of many, and for some, it is filled by adopting ideas considered secret unacceptable truths contrary to the unwell mainstream that finds them despicable. You're not sick, they are, and there is only one cure-all solution. But at last, your brave difficult truths are told openly and you are emancipated from the shadows! Congratulations and good luck trampling the few to build monuments for the even fewer.


You mean gender dysphoria. Body dysmorphia is also something trans people experience. You’re basically making the “they’re killing the twinks!” argument with absolutely no evidence for diagnosticians leading patients towards transition. My experience as a trans woman is that I had to fight my doctors to believe me, and this is a common experience in my circles. I know dozens of trans people, and not a single one was told by a doctor that they were trans. We call it the prime directive, and we even apply it between friends.

You do not speak with authority on this topic.


If that means a man can enter the women’s bathrooms, then I’m against it.


All this malice over bathroom use? How about we make bathrooms single stall and end this stupid hate


As a gay man, I will begrudgingly volunteer as a sacrificial genital checker. I will sit at the entrance to the men's restroom, like a bouncer of a club, and the men that are concerned about who is in which bathroom can show me their penis prior to gaining entry to the restroom. That way, we can make sure restrooms are safe for all.


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> Do you let people self-identify, and there are many rapes caused by this,

Citation needed. That sounds deeply dubious (as frankly the rest of your argument)


The most rapes involving trans people are in men’s prisons where trans women are put. You’re very thinly veiled in your fascist rhetoric.

If misused bathroom rape was the actual issue at play, men would simply push the fucking door open and rape the women you apparently care so deeply to protect. Men with motive to use the opposite bathroom would not go through the often sterilizing trouble of hormone replacement therapy when the doors are already unlocked. You tell on yourself badly with this argument, rightbound.


My “fascist rhetoric” involves protecting jailed women from being raped, yes.

It’s strange how great leftist ideals transfer into horrible daily life. It’s qualified as fascist to want to avoid being knived on the street or not administering hormons to 5-year olds.

The leftist rhetoric is eerly close to the NSDAP program:

- Administering hormons to children,

- Rapes,

- Freeing criminals,

- Mixing bombing population into normal crowds,

- Raising pensions and teacher wages,

- Promoting false science,

- A humongous racial plan,

- Veganism, dogs and painting,

- A senile leader that lets corporations govern america.

If it were me, I’d say the Democrats’ plan is nazism. And fortunately 51% people voted against this nonsense.


Your fascist rhetoric, no quotes needed, condemns innocent people to a life of ridicule and public segregation. Just put the SS pin on already.

Innocent people who just want to use the bathroom. You are cruel in the worst way.


You free criminals and put them in the general population, just like you sacrifice women to put men among them. Why can’t you see your axis of evil.


That's because male-on-male violence, including sexual violence, is endemic in many male prisons. How any particular male victim may identify is secondary to this safeguarding failure within the male prison system.


Trans women are not men.


That is of course a matter of opinion.


What do you mean? Like, everyone decides from scratch? It sounds dubious to me.


I mean it's a matter of opinion as to whether any male who says he's a woman actually is a woman.


You're against doors. Save your hate energy for actual problems.




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