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That’s over 10 years of support, seems reasonable.



and 10 months of support for a PC/Laptop which is being sold right now (like Dell Mini PC 6th-gen model). So is it? Why they were still selling OEM licenses to manufactures for W10 if it was going soon to expire?


Do you mean Dell is selling a brand new PC/Laptop with Windows 10 currently?


That would be reasonable. What's not reasonable is claiming that millions of perfectly good computers that still perform great must be thrown out and replaced.

That's flat out not ok, end of conversation. This is not the 90s where a computer was obsolete in 6 months anymore.

Apple also deprecates hardware with new OS versions, but they don't do it to millions simultaneously. Additionally, they don't turn their entire previous OS into nagware about upgrading every time they release a new version.


New machines with Windows 10 were sold in 2021.

So, less than 4 years of support for those machines.


But why? The only hardware limitation that prevents organizations from migrating to Windows 11 is TPM.


It's also still the dominant windows install base. So it's a bit aggressive to drop support.


Nope, 11 overtook 10 a while ago.


According to...?

Every source I look at shows 10 ahead of 11 still.

October 2024: "At the end of September 2024, Windows 10 had a 62.79 percent market share and Windows 11 accounted for 33.37 percent." https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/01/windows_11_market_sha...

November 2024: "Windows 11 market share grows, but Windows 10 still twice as popular" https://www.pcworld.com/article/2508289/windows-11-market-sh...

November 2024: "Windows 11 reaches 35% market share, but Windows 10 still leads by a wide margin" https://www.techspot.com/news/105408-windows-11-market-share...

December 2024: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/d...

Etc...


None of these link to a real source, and don't show how they collected the data.

Steam's statistics (https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/), for example, are pulled straight from their app, and are updated every month. According to that Win 11 is at 55% vs Win 10's 42%.


>None of these link to a real source

What? The Register, PC World, and Tech Spot aren't "real sources"?

>Steam's statistics

Show the percentage of market share for people who game. Not total market share.

Habits of gamers are very different than corporate. Gamers are a relatively small percentage of all Windows installs. There are millions and millions of machines in corporate, institutional, and government sectors that run Windows but don't run Steam.


They are blogs. If you read the articles you will see that they all point to the same statcounter link as their source. And the statcounter page gives zero info on what source they used.


So, do we agree that Steam is not representative of worldwide installs, and the data is heavily biased?

>And the statcounter page gives zero info on what source they used.

That is answered in the very first question of the FAQ which is linked at the top of every page: https://gs.statcounter.com/faq#methodology

>In other words we calculate our Global Stats on the basis of more than 5 billion page views per month, by people from all over the world onto our 1.5 million+ member sites.


Not sure why visitors to a bunch of sites that have installed the "statcounter" tracker would be considered more representative than everyone who has installed steam.


Because visitors to those sites include corporate and government users -- the majority of windows installations. Corporate and government computers don't have Steam installed.

Those website stats also include home users, people with Steam, etc. It's a way bigger sample across all sectors, including the sector that Steam measures.

However, Steam stats only measure windows installations of people who play Steam games (i.e. not corporate and certainly not government computers, and probably missing a large chunk of home installs). That is a much less representative sample of windows installations.


Citation needed. Because as of Jan 2 this Register article indicates otherwise. https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/02/windows_10_grows/




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