Is it censored, or do most people just not talk about it on Facebook?
It's interesting how incredibly supportive of human rights that a platform in bed with the CCP became, no? Do you think that China's human rights bugaboos are often discussed on their internal social networks?
Yes? I've seen plenty of Facebook posts about how CEOs are greedy, criminal, ripping us all off, etc. I'm really not sure how you could have gotten the impression that it's not allowed to talk about CEOs on Facebook.
It's possible, but ultimately it's hard to tell, especially in regard to the American users.
The results of the election would point to the idea that most American voters aren't so perturbed by what's happening in Gaza as to want an administration that would be at least as effective in reeling in the Israelis as the Biden administration was. Whether that's right or wrong, well, that's another discussion.
It's a chicken-or-the-egg problem. Do people not talk about Gaza on Facebook because it's censored, or do people not talk about Gaza on Facebook because no one was talking about it to begin with?
Given the history I'd say that the incoming administration will be less sympathetic to the Gazans than the outgoing, but, again, it doesn't matter at this point.
>that most American voters aren't so perturbed by what's happening in Gaza as to want an administration that would be at least as effective in reeling in the Israelis as the Biden administration was.
It's not hard to be at least as capable as somebody who's completly incapable. Think what you will of Trump, but in one meeting he had a solid deadline for implementing the ceasefire agreement the Biden admin has had floating since May. There weren't even any changes to it, so what the heck has Biden been doing?
More likely than Biden's incompetence is that Bibi now has a variable solved for in the geopolitical calculus: the American election now has a winner. He finds a kindred spirit in Trump and thinks he is now working with an American administration that will let him do whatever he wants without even the appearance of trying to rein him in. There is no Rashida Tlaib in Trump's party.
But that's on a different subject than the greater thread discussion.
People in Gaza are celebrating the proposed ceasefire and Zionists are angry about it. I’m no Trump fan but it does indeed look like he’ll be better than Biden (who was the worst).
The people in Gaza are probably desperate enough to accept anything at this point and everyone involved has a long history of going back on their word.
Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and supports West Bank settlements. To suddenly give an Iran-backed militia a win goes against literally everything in the grand scheme of things.
I'm with you that Biden has been doing worse than nothing, and has been stringing us along with this ceasefire that will never come, while at the same time using UN to block any sort of resolution.
But don't kid yourself that Trump is better. He supports the settlement of the West Bank and has recognized Jerusalem as exclusively Israeli.
The question is whether it's a ruinous empathy thing. It's much too early for me to be confident that the current ceasefire is actually going to work better than the last one. But if it does, it's a pretty strong data point for the idea that credibly taking either side is better for the Palestinian people than flailing around trying to support both.
Biden has been as empathetic towards Palestine as it's possible to be without opposing Israel. That's how we ended up with things like the crazy floating aid pier. Trump's position is much less empathetic, complete with overt threats of "all hell to pay" if they don't release the hostages soon, and if the current ceasefire holds then it's hard to avoid concluding it's better for the Palestinian people overall.
Great, so we have TikTok where we can access information that's being censored by the West, and Facebook to access information that's being censored by the East. What's the problem? Information wants to be free.
There are places in the west where you risk losing your job just by mentioning the ongoing genocide that is happening now in Gaza.
I'm not defending the CCP in any way, it's just that power corrupts and abuse of power happens pretty much everywhere.
if the Rohingya genocide is a genocide, then I can see the case for Gaza (the UN definition of genocide is quite broad) - but still feel that there should be a word distinguishing the stuff that happened in the Holocaust or the Rwandan genocide from less systemic killings occurring in the background of conflict. A lot of the power of the word “genocide” comes from the implicit comparison to the Holocaust, but none of the events we are discussing really come all that close barring Rwanda.
Yeah when the Palestinians say they want to murder all the Jews that's what genocide is. When there are no Jewish people in Palestine because they killed them all, that's what genocide is. If people didn't hate Jews and support terrorism, Palestinians wouldn't be dying. When Arabs are allowed to vote, participate in government, and join the military, that's the opposite of what genocide is.
fair. they are guilty of arresting specific ethnicity for the crime of gathering in groups, and targetting men and forbidding men to have children, and forcing women to take han husbands to dilute their ethnicity. but not genocide.
TikTok is not