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>Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI

No True Scotsman all over here. Where people embrace and adopt AI, it isn't real. But a million incredibly dumb sociology surveys of nebulous, imaginary things are super convincing.

>Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble

Literally none of them are "in trouble". I mean, Google has kind of underperformed and is behind the ball, but absolutely none of them have retreated at all.

Seriously, this whole discussion is hilarious. Every single major company is dumping enormous efforts into AI, redoubling and redoubling again their commitment based upon market analysis and what they've seen. If you counter this by pointing at some asinine college survey of fantasy products with absurd titles, you might be deluding yourself.




> Seriously, this whole discussion is hilarious. Every single major company is dumping enormous efforts into AI, redoubling and redoubling again their commitment based upon market analysis and what they've seen. If you counter this by pointing at some asinine college survey of fantasy products with absurd titles, you might be deluding yourself.

I also know what I see around me. Every time a search engine or social media site or OS pushes an AI feature I see people coming to me asking if I know how to turn it off. Tips like adding -"ai" -"stable diffusion" -"midjourney" -"prompt hunt" -"open art" to searches have spread to everyone I know.

You're right that Google and Microsoft would have better numbers than I do and maybe it's better to trust the hype-train fed to us by the multi-billion dollar corporations who have massive sunk costs to justify to their shareholders, over glorified internet surveys. I'm not even saying that AI can't ever become wildly popular, but I know that nobody around me is impressed or even optimistic about AI, most everyone wants to get away from it, and that includes the stereotypical grandmother types who genuinely want the tech they interact with to be easier to use and the the stereotypical tech/nerd types who want it to be more powerful. That's not a very good sign.

Also, let's not pretend that those "fantasy products with absurd titles" aren't representative of the kind of absurd products we've all seen "AI" slapped onto.


Have you not seen market hype cycles before? They don't necessarily correlate with success, and when they do it's not necessarily with the ones who sunk the most money in. see: .com bubble (which did eventually turn out to be huge, just not for most of the companies in the first wave), 3D TVs (which didn't, now dead), VR (still a bit in limbo, but the hype has died down from where it was, a lot of companies haven't recouped their investments). "Lots of companies are putting lots of money into it" does not mean it's actually a good idea.

(and honestly, I think the only data most people in the market are basing their decision off is 'chatGPT got a million users in 5 days'. But then, their monthly site visits are now down more than 90% from their peak. I think there is value in AI in general, but it's very over-hyped and there's a lot of quite frankly crap integrations which provide little to negative value)




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