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I don't know if English is your second language, so I'll try to explain this plainly. When GP says "a vice president" in their comment it is not meant as literally Kamala Harris, they are using a literary device called metonymy. Google's definition: the substitution of the name of an attribute or adjunct for that of the thing meant, for example suit for business executive, or the track for horse racing. "a VP" in GP is a substitution for "the Kamala Harris campaign" which absolutely did organize a mobile clinic to be present for a major event, at which vasectomies were offered. Here is further reading on Metonymy if you would care to learn more: https://liberalarts.oregonstate.edu/wlf/what-metonymy.


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Your clinging to the idea that there is anyone at all who has said and meant, literally, that Kamala Harris was providing vasectomies to anyone is the kind of shrill idiocy that led her to lose this election.

>"this is what's known as a lie for propaganda"

No one is outright lying, but you are certainly being dishonest by insisting someone else was not speaking figuratively when they obviously were.

>"your(sic) forgot to explain what the problem is."

The problem is that it is weird and off putting to most Americans that there is a clinic offering sterilization procedures to supporters of a politician at their rally.


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Whether you consider my statement factual or not is entirely beside the point.

You’re not going to agree. You don’t have to agree. It’s rhetorical—an attempt to help you understand how to someone might see things. A data point.

I’m explaining how people I know who are, feelings about Trump aside, disenfranchised with the entire democrat strategy, viewed a portion of the greater landscape. A lot of people I know thought it was kinda weird. I don’t owe you a convincing explanation as to why any more than my other comments in this thread might betray. Take it or leave it.

This election was never about Trump.


Whether you consider my statement factual

I don't, because it's not.

disenfranchised

People are being fed constant propaganda like this. Maybe they wouldn't be so upset if they heard things that are true like "there was a mobile clinic in an adjacent parking lot to a convention".


You continue to fail to comprehend the simple rhetorical logic here. You have all the information but cannot seem to process it. Why type of voter does that make you? One that lost.

You don’t need to splain to me how it actually was a mobile clinic. As has already been covered, I know what it was and I don’t know a single person who thinks like you claim to be outraged over. Your entire thread here is a non-sequitur, just like your party’s campaign strategy. People aren’t that dumb.


You don’t need to splain to me how it actually was a mobile clinic

Right, this is why it's a lie. You know the truth and you say something different, that's what lying is.

The rest of your comment is trying to rationalize and ignore the lies. Insults, people should know better, claiming outrage, trying to talk about something else instead, all to take the focus off the fact that you lied and even you know lying is wrong.


You broke the site guidelines badly and repeatedly in this thread. We have to ban accounts that do that, regardless of how wrong others are or you feel they are, so please don't do it again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please avoid tit-for-tat spats in particular. They're tedious and nasty.


You really are that dense. I’m explaining how people perceived the two candidates. I am not making objective statements about reality. I am explaining peoples’ abject reality to you. Take it or leave it but either way continuing to whine about truth and lies isn't going to fix your party.


You broke the site guidelines badly and repeatedly in this thread. We have to ban accounts that do that, regardless of how wrong others are or you feel they are, so please don't do it again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please avoid tit-for-tat spats in particular. They're tedious and nasty.




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