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> The logging alone is worth it to switch to it.

Weird. In my professional life, I've found systemd's logging to be woefully lacking when compared to systems that just run every daemon through syslog (or -even more retro- "each daemon writes stdout & stderr to disk, which then gets sent to your log sink of choice").

What I usually find is that a ton of information never, ever makes it into journalctl, so I always need to go to the actual log files on disk. [0]

On top of that, journalctl just fucking giving up when logs have been rotated is totally bogus. (If this has been fixed, then the fix hasn't made its way to the systems I work with.)

ALSO, have they fixed the issue where minor data corruption just totally fucks your log file to death... rather than what happens with regular log files and you get an unreadable section that's bracketed by good data?

[0] Yes, you could reasonably say "Well, those services are not correctly configured to log to journalctl!". But my point here is that I see this happen so often that journalctl is like my tenth stop for log messages, rather than my first.




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