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I drive a 2000 4Runner.

You know what I love?

Physical controls for heat/radio/shifting etc.

It feels precise and tactile.

My wife refuses to drive it, she much prefers the modern luxuries in cars, but there is something so satisfying about FEELING the interaction with a control.



I dread the day my '97 4runner rusts just too much to ignore. They don't hold up to NJ well. I can afford anything and I hate everything current. Considering paying new trd pro price for whatever lovingly maintained 3rd gen I can find from the south or midwest. People have them, but they also love them and keep them. And a manual trans with 4wd is just even rarer. Maybe it will be worth actually buying just any version with a good frame and paying to have everything transplanted over. I can't stand automatic.

Or maybe go the other direction and hope that new Scout isn't just a fantasy. Even with the physical controls and generator, I hate that it will surely be fully computer operated and all by software I can't access or control at all. It will surely be nice physical controls and a pile of annoying wrong behaviors you can't fix.


Have a shop professionally de-rust and ceramic-coat your frame and body. It'll last decades.


I've an aughts vehicle myself, and yes, the lack of screens is one reason I plan to hang on to that as long as possible.


I'd prefer to just have a modern car with a decent auto-climate system and never have to mess with it at all.




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