One thing that would really get me to consider buying a Tesla is to add a few high quality _assignable_ knobs and controls that I could configure to control radio volume, heat, or whatever function I'd like. (within reason)
Oh and real indicator stalks, that would be nice too.
People with older teslas don't want to get the new ones.
They did away with all the stalks. The car guesses which direction you want to drive. Turn signals are buttons on the (rotating) steering wheel (or yoke).
The worst is that the touchscreen has very tiny targets. There's nowhere to rest your hands, you have to stab at them from the driver's seat (in a moving car) sigh.
Enhance Auto has intriguing products that may be right up your alley[0]. That being said, they're obviously aftermarket and not OEM. Last I heard they were working on aftermarket stalks, but I'm not sure where they're at on that project.
> The S3XY Knob comes with a Gen2 Commander, which adds unique automation to your Tesla, such as automatically restarting your Autopilot after a lane change and turning off the wipers during AP drives. [emphasis added]
At what point should a company that builds products like that be liable for the damages they encourage?
For that matter, reckless endangerment and involuntary manslaughter are crimes in many jurisdictions.
This attitude is a HN/reddit thing and the incredulity is a sign you spend a lot of time in that online bubble. The rest of us just buy what makes the most sense for us and our families.
It really isn't though. Regardless of whether the above comment makes sense, Musk is just an incredibly public figure now, even in non-tech spaces. Also including the word family in your wording is weird, I guess this is part of American political & economical parlance.
Surprisingly, it is not. This is really a very American thing to say, I am not sure why. It is also political, and used to bring about some emotional gravitas to whatever you are saying, even if it has no application whatsoever, like buying luxury vehicles.
I said that to convey that practical family considerations (car is dependable, safe, requires little maintenance) outweigh things like "Elon is a good or bad person" and "I do/don't like his participation in American politics". When I didn't have a family, I could buy a car based on looks or speed or the politics of the CEO.
I didn't mean to imply that my reasoning has more gravitas than someone else's, it's that my priorities may be different because of my situation. Different priorities are fine! Hopefully there's a car for everyone.
I get that you should vote with your wallet, but your $40k or so is pissing in the ocean for musk. he literally could not care less about your money
if you want to hurt yourself more than you hurt him, go for it, but I like choosing what'll benefit me the most (and while emotions about CEOs have some weight, I don't base my entire decision on them)
fwiw the product is okay (and they've got a pretty good network of charging gear so far) but I do enjoy my hybrid car with physical buttons!
Assuming that a Tesla is a vehicle that you would enjoy more than an alternative vehicle option or that would better fit your needs (which is presumably the situation if you are considering buying one), then the value you are giving up for yourself by going with an inferior-for-your-needs option far, far outweighs the money from an individual sale that goes to Musk. If you are willing to hurt yourself more than you are hurting Musk, then I guess sure, you do you.
I don't know why people feel this need to take the words that someone said and add an entirely new meaning to them. Notice that nowhere in my comment or the comment that I replied to does the word "boycott" appear (and the first comment doesn't even really suggest one). So much of the poor quality of discourse online is people doing exactly what you did: take a comment someone made and decide to interpret it in a way that makes the commenter seem bad and the person reading it feel good.
Here is (in my opinion) the civil way to make your point:
Yeah, it's probably true that the value to the individual is greater than the value that Musk gets (this is the entire concept of consumer surplus), but in some cases, an individual might feel it justified to take a hit for moral reasons, such as in a Boycott.
You are replying to the thing I actually said and inviting further discourse rather than asking a rhetorical question that you believe (likely incorrectly) that you already know the answer to.
> I don't know why people feel this need to take the words that someone said and add an entirely new meaning to them.
I am genuinely curious to your definition of boycott and how that is different to what you and the original commentor are talking about. Note that this is not to say that I do or do not approve of a boycott in this case, rather I find it intriguing that you seem to argue that boycotts in general make no sense.
Also note that my comment is a question, and though I understand it can be read sarcastically, was actually not meant as such and so the entire reply you made is mostly an adversarial situation playing out in your head.
> I don't know why people feel this need to take the words that someone said and add an entirely new meaning to them.
This is playing games. Whether you intended it or not.
I called for boycott. You dismissed it. GP called you on it and now you’re playing dumb.
This worked in public discourse a long time ago but nobody buys it anymore. It’s a bad deflection.
HN is better at it than Reddit but there’s still way too many people who pretend like their reply has nothing to do with the chain of conversation they attached it to. Some of that is how we display follow-ups, but I can’t fix that.
Yes, because the alternatives all wanted $20k+ for nickel and diming on basic functionality that a Tesla has.
It’s 2024, and somehow only Tesla or maybe Rivian has accessible video recording built in, even though all cars are covered with cameras.
I went into car buying thinking I wouldn’t entertain a Tesla due to lack of Carplay, and came out never wanting to step into a dealership again. So many stupid games they want to play, I just want to pick my color and pay for the car on my couch on my phone and pick it up.
As much as I love CarPlay, I don’t miss it much when driving a Tesla because they’re one of the few car manufacturers where the built-in interface is just as good, and in some ways better, than what CarPlay gives you.
The things I do miss are the ability to run 3rd-party apps, and a decent voice interface: Tesla’s voice interface sucks very bad compared to Siri.
Or if you're outside the US, anytime you touch anything economic that has ever been priced in US Dollars (since the US runs a huge budget deficit which it finances through printing dollars, aka debt monetization, which is partially paid for by foreigners who interact with the USD directly or indirectly).
Oh and real indicator stalks, that would be nice too.