> so I'm not sure what you're going on about IRT the Anglo-Sphere.
Australia is worse than the US for this, and worse than any other anglo country.
> The US only has privacy rights for Americans.
Yes, and Australia doesn't even have privacy rights for Australians. Hence worse.
> As a non-citizen traveler, they routinely belittle, humiliate, and violate such privacy, demanding access to people's phones at risk of detention (or at best being sent back home) being exactly one of the things they do. Ask almost any Canadian what they think about the border in the last 20 years.
The Australian border force isn't any better for this, you just don't see it because I presume you're an Australian citizen. The UK and Canada can be pretty bad as well. Shitty border personal are not unique to the US.
> I wipe my personal data when traveling to the US, which I pretty much only do for work.
The difference in the US is if you are a citizen or green card holder you can tell them to go suck eggs, and the worst they can do is confiscate your device.
In Australia, even if you're a citizen, you face IIRC a $5000 fine and possibly some jail time. So that's much worse.
> They need a legal basis and they are required to cite that:
What is the bar for a legal basis? In practice it seems equivalent to the way cops claim to smell weed as grounds for a search.
> In my experience and by my reading of performance stats US Border force are far more intrusive and over bearing than Australian Border forces.
Anecdotes will be anecdotes, but I flew in and out of the US for years before becoming a citizen and never had issues. Honestly I found UK immigration to be the rudest and most intrusive but that was just my experience.
Also stats don't mean much since IIRC Australia stopped recording or at least making public the number of devices they search.
A blog article from a law firm isn't a great source here, especially when contrasted with the numerous accounts of people that have been forced to unlock their devices without legal basis.
> In any case, you're free to challenge, etc. See link.
Not if a 'legal basis' is claimed.
> Like most people then. Whether crossing US or Australian borders.
Yup.
> So Australia's not the worst "anglo country" then?
Is the term anglosphere such an unfamiliar term you had to put anglo country in quotes?
Australia is the worst country when it comes to searching devices without justification, objectively going by laws and user experiences.
The UK is the worst country for being treated with a lack of respect and being asked intrusive questions in my experience.
> Do you recall correctly? Did Australia stop?
You're being overly defensive, lad.
Maybe put your patriotism/tribalism aside while having this discussion?
I read a few articles recently that said Australia had stopped recorded, so yes, fairly certain I am recalling correctly but not about to go and look it up either.
Australia is worse than the US for this, and worse than any other anglo country.
> The US only has privacy rights for Americans.
Yes, and Australia doesn't even have privacy rights for Australians. Hence worse.
> As a non-citizen traveler, they routinely belittle, humiliate, and violate such privacy, demanding access to people's phones at risk of detention (or at best being sent back home) being exactly one of the things they do. Ask almost any Canadian what they think about the border in the last 20 years.
The Australian border force isn't any better for this, you just don't see it because I presume you're an Australian citizen. The UK and Canada can be pretty bad as well. Shitty border personal are not unique to the US.
> I wipe my personal data when traveling to the US, which I pretty much only do for work.
The difference in the US is if you are a citizen or green card holder you can tell them to go suck eggs, and the worst they can do is confiscate your device.
In Australia, even if you're a citizen, you face IIRC a $5000 fine and possibly some jail time. So that's much worse.