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Cool, I hope you are on your way to a healthier weight. I can see why medication could help in the short-term for someone who has dug a deep hole. My reaction of disgust is towards the premise of "how long until we're all on Ozempic?" and the current state of affairs, where far too many people in the US are being medicated for that and various other things.


> ... where far too many people in the US are being medicated for that and various other things.

What, precisely, does this mean? If medication is appropriately prescribed, by well-educated and well-trained doctors who have, upon actually meeting the patient which neither of us has done, decided that this patient could benefit from said medication... why is that bad?

39.6 percent of U.S. adults are obese. If all of them were prescribed GLP-1 meds (which would definitely never be true, for lots of reasons), and if all of them got healthy because of it... that's bad? Simply because they used medication to help?

Clarify for me, please, why medication is somehow not allowed to be used as a tool to fight illness or injury. Because people should somehow be "stronger" and able to fight it more on our own, despite not having been able to in the past?


GLP-1 is not a get out of jail free card. It will have long-term side effects.

Mass medication is an undesirable state of the world because it doesn’t address the root of any problem. It simply negates or masks some of the effects. The Ozempic situation is just like how kids are now being prescribed Adderall in the millions, when really the problem is they are just given iPads too much and fed unhealthy food that causes ADHD. Adderall doesn’t address the cause. Then you end up with a slave population that needs this medication to function. which is only good for the pharma companies making money on those meds.


> GLP-1 is not a get out of jail free card. It will have long-term side effects.

Source? Because so far it seems like you and others really want it to have long-term negative effects, but that the evidence for that is made up and entirely in your head, to date.

> The Ozempic situation is just like how kids are now being prescribed Adderall in the millions, when really the problem is they are just given iPads too much and fed unhealthy food that causes ADHD. Adderall doesn’t address the cause.

Ah, finally, the mask comes off. Your issue is with people getting help for disorders and illnesses they have, period.

The trope that ADHD is caused by iPads is nonsense. ADHD is caused by an underdeveloped pre-frontal cortex. Plenty of kids actually have it. I did, for sure. I wish I had found out what ADHD was, instead of holding my preconception about what it was, much earlier in life. I didn’t need that struggle against a thing I could never beat, because your brain controls everything you do.

> Then you end up with a slave population that needs this medication to function. which is only good for the pharma companies making money on those meds.

Do you? Show me a “slave population” that “needs adderall to function.”


I think we can just agree to disagree lol. Yeah all of these problems are just naturally occurring and humans were screwed until Ozempic and Adderall were invented. Thank God for the pharma companies!


That isn’t what I said. You are conflating multiple things.

I agree we created many of these problems (food being unhealthy, for example).

I also agree fixing many of them would be good.

I don’t agree that that is the only way to help people, and I don’t agree with the implication that “all pharma is bad,” because I don’t make outlandish binary statements like that.




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