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Of course, it "doesn't work" because people don't keep it up. I started exercising regularly during covid and didn't stop. I cut out all the soda. It works.



Report back in 10, 15 and 20 years.

Likely, you will at some point revert to unhealthy habits and become fat again.

Long-term weight loss success numbers are abysmal.


So we should be on drugs the rest of our lives?


Many embrace it.

Testosterone replacement therapy, highly refined protein powders, nootropics, etc.

We’re all trying to make the best of what’s given, revert mistakes, live longer.

All options are on the table.


We’re on fluoride from the water our entries lives, iodine in the salt and various B vitamins, iron and calcium in the flour. Why stop there? This has been an overwhelming coup for public health.


Aren't we already ?


I dropped from the mid 300s 10-15 years ago to 260-ish these days. It fluctuates from 250 to 280 over time, but keeping off weight long-term by changing diet is very much doable.


> 250 to 280

That should be very doable for most people. 250 is overweight for everyone under 7 feet tall, and 280 is obese for everyone under 6 foot 9 inches (that's about 99.997% of the population, if my data source is correct). For the vast, vast majority of people 350 pounds would be somewhere in the mid-40s BMI.


This is so stupid.

If you want to not be fat, exercise and eat fewer calories. Full stop.

The fact that a certain group of individuals don’t have that self control is just evidence that education and public health have a place. Drugs won’t solve that.

These drugs are needed for people with metabolic disorders caused by years of food abuse or poor genetics. It’s not a population wide solution.


We have 50+ years of incontrovertible evidence that that advice doesn’t work for the overwhelming majority of people. “Just have self control” is the stupid take imho.


A meta-analysis of 29 long term weight loss studies[1] found:

> By 5 years, more than 80% of lost weight was regained

I think a much better hypothesis is that CICO does work, physically, but there are metabolic, hormonal and mental factors that either predispose towards obesity or make it difficult to escape.

It's a bit like telling gambling addicts to "just stop gambling" or depressed people to "lighten up".

And along comes GLP-1 drugs, where obese people find it easy to lose weight, find new motivation for life, etc. The GLP-1s aren't increasing metabolism, nor are they making people exercise, nor are they making food less available. Yet somehow, a hormonal mediation is greatly successful, hmm.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5764193/


“This is so stupid, if you want to stop smoking put down the cigarette! Full stop.”

Like (a) no shit and (b) the question is why can’t people. Because we know objectively they can’t.

The drugs work by literally solving your self control issue, and to such an extent it works beyond just food.




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