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Imagine the paranoia that must be flooding Hezbollah right now. You can't function without your electronics...but you can't trust them at all now.

You don't even know how many or which of your gadgets have been compromised to spy on you and for how long.

Massive, massive L.



The actual body count could be zero and it would still be devastating.

I could even believe the supply chain infiltration was fake and radios were manually replaced day of the attack with a crude timer. Anything to give the appearance of omnipotence.


replace all the batteries right now? remove it from every one of your devices and wait some hours to see if other devices explode?


On the other hand: isn't risk to this enormous? What if they just abandon all electronics and conduct their _business_ "off grid"? Good luck tracking that down...


I'm probably wrong but I think I remember that part of the reason the Oct 7 attacks worked so well was due to Hamas' avoiding known signals intelligence gathering operations by using hand-carried notes and keeping it all low-tech. They planned and trained in the open but never let it slip on commonly monitored media that they were about to do anything.

That was Hamas, not Hezbollah so maybe the latter didn't learn the lesson and left themselves open to this type of attack or retribution, depending on your individual perspective.

This may push things back to pencil and paper and sneaker-nets. It'll probably be a brief adaptation though since the temptation of technology is very real.


Unfortunately for them, pigeons fly slower than radio waves.


If that were better or as good, they'd already be doing it. It's pretty obvious that would massively disrupt them.


Massive, massive L for Israel. No one in their right mind is going to use Israeli tech or products going forward. They just devastated their own economy.


These weren't Israeli products. If I were Mossad, I'd compromise anything except an Israeli or Jewish-owned product.


That's beside the point, though. Imagine you are in some non-aligned/involved country with no real stake in MENA politics, idk Thailand or Peru. Corporate/national security is your job. Absent some specific need that can't be supplied by anyone else, would you want to do business with them?


Depends on which side you are on.


I mean regardless of which side you're on, you still wouldn't want to end up with a product that has a bomb in it by accident, even if it wasn't targeted against you.


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Yeah, I'm sure that Israel is just so good that every single device didn't end up being owned by any one else.

I mean Israel is really really good at avoiding collateral damage (according to Israel), so everyone who's on the receiving end of this was Hezbollah (according to Mossad). I mean, they do have the most humanitarian army in the world after all (according to the IDF casualty reports)


Well, if I have to choose whether I believe IDF or Hamas, I obviously choose IDF.


That's a false dichotomy. I'm just saying that believing the IDF is non sense. They have never ever shown any ability to admit wrongful doing. Like even statistically, it's impossible for them to never hit the wrong target. Yet going by the IDF reports, that's more or less been the case for the past 50 years. They have also faked evidence and videos (the famous video in a hospital that showed "Hamas symbols" when it was an Arabic calendar)

At that point, even the Russian military's figures might be more reliable. As there are a few instances of publically admitting to destroying a civilian-only target ("by mistake" according to them).


I have seen instances of IDF admitting their mistakes, in this war as well. Like, the hand grenade at the mosque incident.

I haven’t seen anything like this from the other side. For them, every Jew is the enemy.


Are you a citizen of Lebanon?




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