The interview subject almost mentions it, but it might have to do with this drek (in a celebratory piece from 2018)

https://www.chronline.com/stor ies/centralia-elementaries-look-to-new-curriculum-to-improve-literacy,17131

New Yorker piece from 2023 for context: https://archive.is/yIYuL

I don't know, but people like Ben eater or Pikuma can definitely have great connections with their students over zoom.

Maybe the teachers also need to change the teaching method? I could be wrong because I was not poisoned by social media and short videos when I was young and I did read a lot. I also read Moby Dick although didn't enjoy it.