Right, that’s my point. We only disagree about what “correct tooling” means. Since PHP and Go have everything needed I prefer not adding more abstractions and dependencies, for less code, fewer black boxes, and fewer external dependencies.

Programmers comfortable writing in PHP and Go with their comprehensive standard libraries can also work with frameworks if necessary, but those who can’t get stuck as Laravel developers, baffled by the much larger number of projects and existing code that doesn’t use their “correct tooling.”