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For those looking for alternatives to the offline first model, I settled on PowerSync. Runner up was WatermelonDB (don't let the name fool you.) ElectricSQL is still too immature, they announced a rewrite this month. CouchDB / PocketDB aren't really up to date anymore.

Unfortunately this area is still immature, and there aren't really great options but PowerSync was the least bad. I'll probably pair it with Supabase for the backend.



Co-founder of PowerSync here. Would love to hear what you would like to see improved in PowerSync :) Thanks!


The docs for React Native. I had to piece together how to do stuff from the code examples and a YouTube video tutorial because they're pretty sparse with information, and missing a cohesive tutorial that could get me setup with CRUD locally. Plus the initial setup process from the npm page, which itself was notable for how much was required.

I haven't attempted to setup the backend yet, so that's my feedback so far.


Thanks, appreciate the feedback.


ElectricSQL before their announced rewrite worked fully offline and could sync when the clients became online again. Now, that functionality with their rewrite is somewhat removed, as they expect you to handle clientside writes by yourself, which is what I believe PowerSync does as well, am I correct in that understanding? If I wanted a fully offline clientside database that could then sync to all the other clients when online, what would I do? I am looking for this in the context of a Flutter app, for reference.


> Now, that functionality with their rewrite is somewhat removed, as they expect you to handle clientside writes by yourself, which is what I believe PowerSync does as well, am I correct in that understanding?

Yes, that is correct.

> If I wanted a fully offline clientside database that could then sync to all the other clients when online, what would I do? I am looking for this in the context of a Flutter app, for reference.

This is what PowerSync provides by default. If you haven't done so yet, I would suggest starting with our Flutter client SDK docs and example apps — and feel free to ask on our Discord if you have any questions or run into any issues :)


I use TinyBase for the client side store, it can sync with pretty much all the technologies people are talking about here

https://tinybase.org/


Seems like that is only Javascript based. I like ElectricSQL and PowerSync because they're on the database layer and are client agnostic.


Yea you can use it client side and sync to PowerSync or electricsql if you aren't using js on the backend

https://tinybase.org/guides/persistence/database-persistence...


> CouchDB / PocketDB aren’t really up to date anymore.

Source? I’ve been using CouchDB as my game world DB for years, works fine for me?


The biggest "source" of vibes that CouchDB/PouchDB is "dead/maintenance mode" is the corporate ecosystem/contributors around it:

- Couchbase has been increasingly moving away from CouchDB compatibility

- Cloudant was one of the more active contributors until it got eaten by IBM and put into a maintenance spiral (what mother can love what IBM "Blue Mix" has done to Cloudant?)

- In general the still growing number of document DBs that are Mongo-compatible but not CouchDB-compatible (AWS and Azure document DB offerings, for instance)

In Open Source the winds of commercial favor aren't always reflective of Open Source contributor passion, but there too the pace of PouchDB seemed to greatly slow down a few years ago, and lost the interest of some major contributors. CouchDB itself seems to have gotten hugely stuck in a bunch of Apache committees over the design of the next semver major version, with a ton of huge breaking changes that don't really seem to be for solving problems but do some architecture battle under the hood, some political war between Erlang and other programming languages for superiority, and some political war between Apache trying to consolidate core functionality with some of the other database-like engines in their ~~graveyard~~ custodianship.




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