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Honestly, as a society we should be able to guarantee most if not all of those. Every single one of them is an economic trade-off and when you put for profit companies in the loop, it’s obvious that they will prioritize their profits.

The system is for profit by choice, it is under our control as society to guarantee that list or not, and we have chosen not to.

Might be the right or wrong decision, that’s up to each of you, but denying it’s has been chosen it’s very naive



It's beyond economic trade-off. You're talking about full perfect control over people's behaviours.

> That things that are legal to put in your body will not cause irreparable harm to you

You can get water intoxication by literally drinking too much clean water. How are you going to get anywhere close to controlling that?

> That your medical professional knows what they are talking about

You just lost all medical staff, because they're people and people make mistakes. Even when they don't, people are extremely fuzzy puzzles and we don't have enough tests available to do precise diagnosis of lots of things.


The challenge with medicine, if one is dealing with a known condition, there's a known intervention. And Any number of simple and straightforward tests will make it easy.

It's with the unknown conditions, that doesn't fall into the mental flow chart of a medical professional's mental model are SOL.

The real answer to most folk's chronic conditions are lifestyle interventions, but of course, medical professionals most difficult challenge is ensuring compliance. The only tools available for a medical professional to a patient is to beg, plead, threaten, yell, discuss the interventions till they are blue in the face, but unfortunately, you can lead a horse to water, but can't force them to drink.

The elephant in the room that no one wants to admit is that a lot of health issues are both self-inflicted through lifestyle choices, and it creates an negative feedback loop of demand for professionals to be able to truly have more time to care for the patients that truly need help.


> You can get water intoxication by literally drinking too much clean water.

This is such a disingenuous response. It's clear that you are attempting to engage in bad faith here, so no response is necessary.


I think a decent number of them are non-economic statements, particularly the motives for doctors, insurance, and interests.

>The system is for profit by choice, it is under our control as society to guarantee that list or not, and we have chosen not to.

The system is for profit by choice, because most people care about themselves. It would very hard to make your doctor care more about your life than theirs, or care about your kids more than their kids.

You can institute harsh criminal penalties for doctors like some suggest in this thread, but even then, they are still putting themselves first.

Im not sure I'm "denying" any choice. Im just stating how it is. I have no doubt the world would be different if people chose different - which is a tautological claim.




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