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> Do you really have to be so violent in response?

I was trying to meet your request for an option that came as close as possible to just flicking a switch.

> Step into a room, step inside a pod, press a button, pod closes, press another button to replace the air with nitrogen, done.

I know of a friend of a friend who did this on his own. If you are of sufficient capacity to step into some place and press a button then you are able to buy or make this equipment on your own and do it yourself.

> I'm sorry, but 'life is precious' is a religious view, even if you call yourself 'atheist'.

And some religious people also believe that taking care of Earth's natural environment is also a religious duty. That doesn't make it a religious view, it makes it a general moral view that is shared between some religions and some atheists. The justification for a moral view is what makes it religious or secular.

> Humans have killed each other since they evolved from Australopithecus

And how many of these deaths have been because of religious beliefs? I think enough of them to say that killing people for moral reasons is a religious view, even if you call yourself 'atheist'.



No. The tank that can hold enough nitrogen (or helium or argon--same volume means the same pressure which means effectively the same weight) to do the job reliably is heavy. By the time your health is such that you would choose that path you likely can't lift it. I have seen my wife struggle with lifting that weight when it's in a form meant to be lifted. I've seen her fail when it wasn't as cooperative.


Too bad, I guess that leaves out the "use disproportionately large amounts of the agent to hotbox the room" method. But that doesn't invalidate the point of the parent comment.


Which is completely missing the point. To hotbox a room you need a bunch of the big cylinders. Look at the tare weights on page 3:

https://www.airgas.com/medias/Airgas-Compressed-Gas-Cylinder...

The have a volume in cubic feet specified, multiply by the 165 bar that's what's typically used to see how much space it will fill. Looking around our house there's a very odd-shaped closet under the stairs that would be difficult to measure. Of the more typical places the smallest room in the house is a closet. 6' x 5' (minus a 1' x 1' chunk that I believe contains an air duct) x 8' = 232 cubic feet. Suppose you dump 232 cubic feet of material into it--you'll displace half the air which gives a time of useful consciousness of 20-30 minutes. Not good enough. Let's try doubling that, now we end up with a time of useful consciousness of 30-60 seconds. That's probably enough. That's 2 cylinders at 137 pounds each. Or if you use aluminum, 3 cylinders of 90 pounds each.


Yeah, nobody is seriously suggesting to do that. It was an example for the sake of argument.


That's what white glove delivery is for.




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