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They literally bought Xilinx for their software engineering team. That's at least a thousand firmware engineers and software engineers focused on software stack improvements. That was two years ago. And on top of Xilinx they've been hiring staff like crazy for years now.

The issue was that they basically let everyone go who wasn't building hardware for their essential product lines (CPU & GPU) other than a skeleton crew to keep the software at least mostly functioning. And as much as this seems like it was a bad decision, AMD was probably weeks from bankruptcy by the time they got Zen out the door even despite doing this. Had they not done so, they'd almost certainly closed up entirely.

So for the last ~5 years minimum now they've been building back their software teams and trying to recuperate what they lost in institutional knowledge. That all takes time to do even if you hire back twice as many engineers as you lost.

And so now we are here. Things are clearly improving but nowhere near acceptable yet. But there's a trend of improvement.



> Things are clearly improving

How long am I supposed to wait, as my still-modern AMD GPU sits still-unsupported?

The anecdote above doesn't even sound like there's any improvement at all, let alone "clear" improvement.

And with Zen in 2017 and Zen+ in 2018 the counter is past six years at this point since the money gates opened wide.


> How long am I supposed to wait, as my still-modern AMD GPU sits still-unsupported?

Which GPU do you have? At least according to these docs, on linux the upper chunk of RDNA3 is supported officially but from experience, basically all 6xxx or 7xxxx cards are unofficially supported if you build it for your target arch. 5xxx cards get the short end of the stick and got skipped (they were a rough launch) but Radeon VII cards should also still be officially supported (with support shifting to unofficial status in the next release).

https://rocm.docs.amd.com/en/latest/compatibility/compatibil...

And given that ROCm is pretty core to AMD's support for the windows AI stack (via ONNX), you can assume any new GPUs released from here on out will be supported.


It's 5xxx. And "rough launch" is not an excuse. They've had plenty of time. Is it that different from the other RDNA cards?

The unofficial support for so many cards is not a good situation either.

Edit: Actually, no, I know it's not that different, because some versions of ROCm largely work on RDNA1 if you trick them. They are just refusing to do the extra bit of work to patch over the differences.


I mean it apparently works on RDNA1 now after some effort but they never really attempted to support it because they initially only supported workstation RDNA cards but they didn't have a workstation RDNA1 release.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ROCm/comments/1bd8vde/psa_rdna1_gfx...

I wish they had comprehensive support for basically all recent GPU releases but tbh I'd rather they focus on perfecting support for the current and upcoming generations than spread their efforts too thin.

And ideally with time backports to the older cards will come with time but it's really not a priority over issues on the current generation because those RDNA1 cards were never actually supported in the first place.


Every post I see about trying it has the person run into issues, but maybe Soon it will finally be true.




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