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Until we can probe into people's minds (some advanced MRI or something in the future) and display them on a computer screen, there's no way to call bullshit on people who claim they can "see" the apple, you only have your subjective experience for that.

And I don't believe for a second they "see" in the real sense, again, because I don't see anything. Only time I really see is in my dreams. So rather, ask people "do you see the apple just like you see it in your dreams?" I bet they don't.

Or funk knows, again I repeat, I only have my sensory experience to relate to and there's no visual element in it when I close my eyes.




There are some studies which do show differences in neural activation across people who describe subjective differences in visualization.

2023: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.06.14.544909v4 2021: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8186241/ 2017: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001094521...


I used to do tech support before remote desktop became easy. When talking people though screens I had to do a lot of visualization of what I thought they were seeing so I could explain what to do next. Was it like a dream? Sometimes pretty close but just a computer screen.


You clearly have aphantasia.

> do you see the apple just like you see it in your dreams?

Yes, pretty much.




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