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> Read the article this thread is about.

It is one brand new paper. I am skeptical. Rotation curves are perfectly flat out to whatever arbitrary distance that they happen to be able to measure? I am very skeptical.

> "particle DM can't fully explain the Bullet Cluster either."

According to one scientist, who happens to be the same scientist claiming that particle DM cannot explain rotation curves. I will not check every claim, but the bullet cluster collision speed "problem" is readily explained in the reference in the wikipedia article: https://arxiv.org/abs/1410.7438

The broader point is that every time MOND has claimed to refute dark matter so far, the refutation has been refuted, so I will wait to see the outcome of this new claim.



> The broader point is that every time MOND has claimed to refute dark matter so far, the refutation has been refuted,

By adding more epicycles to LCDM. I'll leave it to you to decide when to call shenanigans on that, but it's been going on for 30+ years now.


I am no expert, but I do not follow. Nothing was added to the LCDM model there, so using the epicycle fallacy does not help the discussion.

The research was simply done again with better accuracy.


I wasn't referring to the bullet cluster specifically, but this obsession with the bullet cluster is typical of the confirmation bias in this field: hyperfocus on what confirms bias and ignore the countervailing evidence. The past 30+ years have seen many "corrections" to get LCDM to fit observations it did not predict [1]. Clusters in general pose challenges to both MOND and LCDM for different reasons [2,3], but LCDM's typically get ignored and MOND's treated as a fatal blow. As I said, neither theory is fully satisfactory, but it's clear that research on these questions is fairly one-sided.

[1] https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/14/7/1331

[2] https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4357/ace62a

[3] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S138764732...


I personally hope that the solution to the handful or two of things that the LCDM model does not (currently) explain will be more interesting than a trivial tweak (which seems to have no physical motivation) to the gravity equation that MOND is.




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