>I guess we need to invent ads, so that we don't all have to become influencers?
It's almost as if you've never bootstrapped a business, self-published a book, or similar.
If you have, and had the resources to use paid ads to reach your desired scale, then congratulations. I think that does indeed entitle you to be smug and dismissive with everyone else.
So we're expected to feel sympathy for the broke bootstrapper?
What I'm reading is someone wants all the upsides with none of the downsides. No one is entitled to an audience, especially that of another, just because they've produced some good or service. Participating in capitalism requires either time or money, usually both, and even then you're not guaranteed success.
>So we're expected to feel sympathy for the broke bootstrapper?
No one is entitled to an audience... Participating in capitalism requires either time or money...and even then you're not guaranteed success.
Wow. It's like I'm talking with a real, live Rockefeller! My comment was exactly about requesting sympathy and demanding government mandates to buy my products, and those of every bootstrapper.
But, your brilliant, esoteric insight regarding the true nature of capitalism has shown me the light. Thank you!
You were complaining about platforms and influencer's gatekeeping their audiences and creating some sort of "all-or-nothing effect", whatever that means. Someone else pointed out that ads exist, and you got snippy and decided to attack the OP for "never bootstrapped a business, self-published a book, or similar".
I pointed out that you don't get an audience for free, and that seems to have further upset you.
Doesn't look like the issue is on my end. You could have used the opportunity to correct my understanding, instead you decided to be rude.
>Someone else pointed out that ads exist, and you got snippy
Right. Clutch your pearls now. People only pointed out some things and the bad man got so snippy.
What 'someone else' actually said was "maybe we should invent ads, so that we don't all have to become influencers".
Clearly a snarky comment, which I accurately identified as smug and dismissive.
>I pointed out that you don't get an audience for free, and that seems to have further upset you.
There's that "pointed out" phrase again. Yes, you "pointed out" a lot and your comments were just as obnoxious, dismissive and condescending, while imputing unstated sentiments in bad faith.
If it's really a discussion and understanding you want, then re-read your comments and see if you can figure out where you went wrong.
But, I feel no obligation to teach you how to talk to people.
You know well that you commented in bad faith on my original reply TO SOMEONE ELSE in agreement with him/her. I was interested in a discussion around the real challenges involved in self-publishing, starting a business and similar. These are challenges expressed by the OP, and which virtually everyone faces.
Then, you jumped in and, instead of engaging with the substance of my comment, decided that you'd make yourself look "smart" by dismissively condescending to me with a snarky comment. It was unwarranted and is up there for anyone to read, as much as you'd like to pretend that it's not.
So, I called you on it. As I said then, it was smug and dismissive. And, I'll add here, rude and trollish. Yes, you look bad. And, if you don't like looking bad, then the right thing to do is to own-up and apologize instead of doubling-down. The latter is the behavior of a spoiled child.
You want to offer up advertising as an alternative, then just say "What about ads?" or similar. Could've been an interesting discussion around the challenges there for startups. Instead, you snark, "someone should invent ads...blah, blah...".
It's not too late to acknowledge that you were wrong. But, if you truly don't see the difference, then I'll repeat here for you: it's not my responsibility to teach you how to talk to people.
So, I'm done replying to this silliness. If you want to accept responsibility and apologize, then I'll accept your apology. Otherwise, no need to waste your time.
