> P4 and core2 are basically worthless but HP P4 and Core2 systems? No one wants that trash.
Nobody wants post-Fiorina HP computers. But I recently sold several Core 2 IBM/Lenovo laptops, for significant money, because people love those. Last night, I ordered a part to polish up the final one on hand, to sell for $200+.
>But I recently sold several Core 2 IBM/Lenovo laptops, for significant money, because people love those.
What do people do with them? Those chips came out in 2006. Loading a modern JS heavy webpage will kneel a Core 2 Duo laptop chip.
Maybe it's tinkerers and businesses who buy them, not people. Business who depend on keeping older machinery going in workshops and what not.
If you're an average joe in need of a laptop at home for web & stuff, for 200+ USD used you can get much more modern machines for home users that will be better at running modern web content than core 2 duo machines.
I was using Core 2 Duo just fine as daily drivers with Linux until a year ago. I upgraded for different reasons.
With 8GB RAM, they will run 3 separate Web browsers at once, still using only a minority of the RAM, and are just fine with pretty much any Web site.
(Maybe it helped to be using uBlock Origin, which reduces both page load bulk, and also eliminates some very invasive behavioral spying that can be resource-heavy.)
One of the ~10 Core 2 ThinkPads I recently I sold went to a business involved with used science lab equipment. The rest of the sales seemed to be for probably personal use.
>I was using Core 2 Duo just fine as daily drivers
Eh, everyone has a different subjective definition of what "just fine" means.
In case of an emergency I guess could make do for a little while with one, but I came back once to my old Core 2 Quad system out of nostalgia and while it does works cand can do things, compared to my newish Ryzen laptop the difference when browsing the web and multitasking is absolutely night and day, but the day is on Pluto.
Once you get used to a modern fast machine with 8 cores at 5GHz and NVME ssd, I just could never imagine going back to a core 2 duo and spinning rust machine today, Linux or not. The difference is staggering.
>With 8GB RAM
That definitely makes a difference, but it's a bit disingenuous, since stuff like 8GB RAM or SSDs were not the standard for Core 2 Duo machines though. Most of those machines you'll find in the wild tend to have more like 1-4GB RAM and spinning rust. That's really tough to daily drive.
>What software you run, and how you use it, are also big factors.
The Web is the same for everyone. So is stuff like browsers and webapps like Teams, G-Suite, Office 365, Youtube, Spotify, Facebook, flight bookign sites, etc. The UX difference between those pages/apps running on a core 2 duo and a modern machine is stratosferic. Even bigger when you have same other stuff in the background like a torrent downloader, dropbox client, messengers, etc.
You are free to say it doesn't bother you, but the difference is definitely there and palpable for everyone. Of course, if your core 2 duo laptop is the Ship of Theseus with everything on it maxxed out and only the chip being the old original part, sure I can believe the difference is smaller, but like I said, that's not really representative for most core 2 due systems of their era which definitely show their age today.
Just a guess but they may be for the truly paranoid as they are the last from Intel without the ME black-box, and with a lean Linux (e.g. Void, or my new beau Chimera-Linux) probably work better than you’d think.
(and Now I’m thinking of digging out my old MacBook Pro 2,2 to see what’s what)
I know, I also use lean LInxues, but JS heavy websites and productivity apps will still be slower compared to modern machines, no matter what Linux distro you use, especially if you multitask a lot.
Void Linux won't give your machine more GHz or TFLOPs or turn your HDD into a NVME, it'll just reduce the RAM and storage footprint compare to more feature rich distros, but your CPU performance in all tasks will stay the same.
My old Macbook, has 2x2.2 GHz 64-bit procs and one of the OG Intel SSDs to replace the HDD – given it’s only sata3 but I have a suspicion it’s still good.
I think I actually will revive it this weekend just to see for myself, all else fails it has a great big matte screen and excellent keyboard I could use for distraction free writing.
Well thats more of an special exception because people want those nice keyboards. I think there are some projects to replace the PCB of the older T60 and T400 models with modern motherboards.
Also whenever I see Fiorina partner with someone in politics that person loses credibility in my eyes. Like they clearly don't care at all about track record.
Nobody wants post-Fiorina HP computers. But I recently sold several Core 2 IBM/Lenovo laptops, for significant money, because people love those. Last night, I ordered a part to polish up the final one on hand, to sell for $200+.