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What a lot of people are missing in all this is that Microsoft is coming from one, dialing it up to eleven to then dial it back to 9.

By pushing this onto people in a hard way they open the door to come up with a mitigating solution that later is far beyond what we had before recall but not as bad as what they pushed onto people in the first place. So they will reach their goal, as it was never 11, it was always 9.



Deliberate manipulation of the Overton window is, unfortunately, nothing new.


maybe not 9, to avoid breaking compatibility...


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I understood this reference.


I didn’t… is because of Windows Nein?


back in the day there was a healthy blend of win95, 98, ME, XP, and vista in the wild. it was common for devs to check for older versions with something like `if str(os.version)[0] == 9`. according to legend enough (internal?) software kept breaking that the solution became "don't put a 9 in the version number".

iirc they officially stated it was because of how much people disliked win8.


This is exactly where my mind went. The version string.


Hand wavy fears about the 9th version poorly string matching with 95 or 98 I guess




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