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FWIW: I feel safer driving and walking by to one than I do the average human driver.


The 1% worst human drivers are really quite unpredictable. You're never certain with any human driver whether they're going to drive like a maniac, but you do know you're not getting that with a Waymo.


With a human I can look at their face to see that they see me. How do I know a robot sees me? Do they have indications that say “I see you and won’t drive” like a driver looking at you in the face and waving?


With tinted windows and glare I already can't see like 75% of drivers. At least driverless cars reliably signal so I don't have to do pose estimation with the front wheels to cross the street. Also they aren't on their phones.


Streaming live video non-stop to the Internet, arguably Waymos are "on the phone" more than humans :p


So answer my question, how do I know the Waymo sees me? With a human I can tell 90% of the time where I live (we have tint laws and stuff).

I can’t see trusting that a robot sees me, otherwise I guess I’m just giving deference to them now?

At least with humans I can see if they are distracted, I can yell at them to get attention, perhaps others. With a robot taxi, I can’t tell anything about it, and I’m a software dev so I absolutely don’t trust anything running software made by a corporation in search of profits, or any other software really, to operate a car in open roads. Not yet at least, maybe in a few decades.


That’s not all of the possible cases.

“In 2022, 13,524 people died in alcohol-impaired driving traffic deaths.”

Source nhtsa.gov

You’re gonna briefly glimpse a passed out drunk driver before it plows through you at 40 mph


You still didn’t answer my question about robot taxis, you just did another “what about x“.


Drivers can stare right at you as they run you over. Believing you have eye contact does not prevent you from being run over.


Anything "can" happen. But having driven and cycled many thousands of miles I'm convinced the probability of being run down/driven into by someone who has made eye contact is a lot lower than by someone who has not, so eye contact is a useful signal. Like GP I'd be happier if robotaxis could not only sense me but also send me a signal to inform me they had (beyond just changing their driving behaviour, although that is in itself a useful signal too of course.)


> like a driver looking at you in the face and waving

your reading comprehension sucks


Maybe sometimes, but not this time.

"With a human I can look at their face to see that they see me."


Did you read the whole thing buddy? Guess not! I guess reading isn’t your thing.


As a cyclist/pedestrian I'm used to drivers ignoring me anyway, YMMV




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