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I honestly don't understand how delusional you have to be to think OpenAI wanted this to happen.


It's a very cheap way to get people to realize gpt4-o is something new.


So they planned to remove ChatGPT's most popular voice, causing anger among many of their customers?


If I didn't much care for my critics, then letting them invent a lot out of story I can rebut easily is worth waiting a few days, knowing full well I can publish it widely whenever I want.

An ordinary person worries all the time about dealing with the legal system. A big company does it all the time.


I mean clearly having Scarlett Johansson on board was plan A.

Bringing the voice offline and then revealing it was a recording of someone else who coincidentally sounded exactly the same is definitely plan B or C though.

I don't understand how you can trust OpenAI so much to think it was all an accident.


Read what I said again


I did, and it still doesn't make sense. Now what?


> I honestly don't understand how delusional you have to be to think OpenAI wanted this to happen.

(1) I've become tired of the "I honestly don't understand" prefix. Is the person saying it genuinely hoping to be shown better ways of understanding? Maybe, maybe not, but I'll err on the side of charitability.

(2) So, if the commenter above is reading this: please try to take all of this constructively. There are often opportunities to recalibrate one's thinking and/or write more precisely. This is not a veiled insult; I'm quite sincere. I'm also hoping the human ego won't be in the way, which is a risky gamble.

(3) Why is the commenter so sure the other person is delusional? Whatever one thinks about the underlying claim, one would be wise to admit one's own fallibility and thus uncertainty.

(4) If the commenter was genuinely curious why someone else thought something, it would be better to not presuppose they are "delusional". Doing that makes it very hard to curious and impairs a sincere effort to understand (rather than dismiss).

(5) It is muddled thinking to lump the intentions of all of "OpenAI" into one claimed agent with clear intentions. This just isn't how organizations work.

(6) (continuing from (5)...) this isn't even how individuals work. Virtually all people harbor an inconsistent mess of intentions that vary over time. You might think this is hair-splitting, but if you want to _predict_ why people do specific irrational things, you'll find this level of detail is required. Assuming a perfect utility function run by a perfect optimizer is wishful thinking and doesn't match the experimental evidence.


I honestly don’t understand why people care about this story at all.


Goes to character


I honestly don't understand how delusional you have to be to not think OpenAI wanted this to happen.




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