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if only macOS would run on iPad..


Just give us support for virtualization and we could install Linux on it and use it for development.


UTM can be built for iOS.


All that power so ipad stays limited like a toy.


I'd settle for some version of xcode, or some other way of not requiring a macOS machine to ship iOS apps.


It needs a regular web browser too.


Swift Playgrounds, which runs on the iPad, can already be used to build an app and deploy it to the App Store without a Mac.


You can’t make a decent iOS app with Swift Playgrounds, its just a toy for kids to learn to code.


You're probably correct about it being hard to make a decent iOS app in Swift Playgrounds, but it's definitely not a toy

I use it for work several times per week. I often want to test out some Swift API, or build something in SwiftUI, and for some reason it's way faster to tap it out on my iPad in Swift Playgrounds than to create a new project or playground in Xcode on my Mac — even when I'm sitting directly in front of my Mac

The iPad just doesn't have the clutter of windows and communication open like my mac does that makes it hard to focus on resolving one particular idea

I have so many playground files on my iPad, a quick glance at my project list: interactive gesture-driven animations, testing out time and date logic, rendering perceptual gradients, checking baseline alignment in SF Symbols, messing with NSFilePresenter, mocking out a UI design, animated text transitions, etc


Yeah, I bought one of them a few years ago planning to use it for a ton of things.

Turns out I only use it on flights to watch movies because I loathe the os.


Please no. I don't want no touch support in macOS.


Why would you need it? Modern iPads have thunderbolt ports (minimally USB-C) and already allow keyboards, network adapters, etc. to be connected. It would be like an iMac without the stand and an option to put it in a keyboard enclosure. Sounds awesome.


It might work if running in Mac mode required a reboot (no on the fly switching between iOS and macOS) and a connected KB+mouse, with the touch part of the screen (aside from Pencil usage) turning inert in Mac mode.

Otherwise yes, desktop operating systems are a terrible experience on touch devices.


> It might work if running in Mac mode required a reboot (no on the fly switching between iOS and macOS) and a connected KB+mouse, with the touch part of the screen (aside from Pencil usage) turning inert in Mac mode.

Sounds like strictly worse version of Macbook. Might be useful for occasional work, but I expect people who would use this mode continuously just to switch to Macbook.


MacBooks even the air are too large and heavy imo. A 10-11 inch tablet running a real os would be ideal for travel imo.


The biggest market would be for travelers who essentially want a work/leisure toggle.

It’s not too uncommon for people to carry both an iPad and MacBook for example, but a 12.9” iPad that could reboot into macOS to get some work done and then drop back to iPadOS for watching movies or sketching could replace both without too much sacrifice. There’s tradeoffs, but nothing worse than what you see on PC 2-in-1’s, plus no questionable hinges to fail.


This is what I want, but with an iPhone (with an iPad would be cool, too). Sell me some insanely expensive dock with a USB-C display port output for a monitor (and a few more for peripherals) and when the phone is plugged in, it becomes macOS.


Because it would be so great you couldn’t help using it? /h

What would be the downside to other’s using it?

I get frustrated that Mac doesn’t respond to look & pinch!


Because I saw how this transformed Windows and GNOME. Applications will be reworked with touch support and become worse for me.


That's your argument of not allowing others to use MacOS on an iPad?


then a lot of people would buy it, including me :-)


Maybe this June there'll be an announcement, but like Lucy with the football, I'm not expecting it. I would instabuy if this was the case, especially with a cellular iPad.


They make a version of iPad that runs macOS, it is called a MacBook Pro.


MacBook Pros have touchscreens and Apple Pencil compatibility now?


Fair enough, I was being a bit flippant. It’d be nice if that existed, but I suspect Apple doesn’t want it to for market segmentation reasons.


I just went to store.apple.com and specced out a 13" iPad Pro with 2TB of storage, nano-texture glass, and a cell modem for $2,599.

MacBook Pros start at $1,599. There's an enormous overlap in the price ranges of the mortal-person models of those products. It's not like the iPad Pro is the cheap alternative to a MBP. I mean, I couldn't even spec out a MacBook Air to cost as much.




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