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I'm not knowledgeable enough to debate on Communism. I was somewhat aware that many of the proponents have pointed out that the major failings were partially because they were implemented incorrectly. The common counterargument is that despite the very real and good intentions that they would all end up the same as an elite group perverts the goals and makes the entire system self serving. Is that too simplistic though? I'd love to hear your thoughts.


> all end up the same

for which, see Goldstein, The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism (appearing in [Orwell49])

> "The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." —EAB


A state of affairs totally unlike the ones we have in the West, to be sure.


> ....an elite group perverts the goals and makes the entire system self serving

That sounds about right. Any system that concentrates power seems to go the same way in a generation or two.




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