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> Why shouldn’t Europeans do the same with US social networks then?

We’re not your foreign adversary? (If we are, we shouldn’t have an obligation to defend you.)

This bill permits TikTok’s sale to a European owner. It just bans its ownership by a foreign adversary country.



You're not a foreign adversary - you're a colonial overlord. If a European or other US 'ally' nation attempts to act against American 'national interest' their government is swiftly toppled - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_CIA_involvement_in_the...

More often they don't get elected at all due to coordinated media campaigns influencing elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_the_United_K...

The US Army literally have an entire army unit dedicated to running propaganda campaigns on social networks internationally. It's ludicrous to suggest this isn't employed to impact political and social policy in 'friendly' nations. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-op...

That being said, there are worse things than Pax Americana. I'd certainly rather living under US influence than CCP. I'd be the first to argue that NATO has prevented another war in Europe. But lets not deny the reality on the ground.


You're making some extremely strong claims, with minimal evidence. I don't deny that the CIA can be pretty nasty to 2nd and 3rd world governments, but claiming the US is a "colonial overlord" over our European allies is just not true. The first priority of our European allies is domestic politics; just like us, everyone wants to get re-elected. Sometimes domestic politics push countries towards the US, sometimes they pull them away. Countries like Hungary and Turkey make diplomatic trouble for the US, and we don't launch coups against them. The US would love it if Germany built up a decent military, but Germany isn't because the political will just isn't there. Between the 60s and the 90s, France literally left NATO. Europe in general has been extremely slow to scale up artillery production to support Ukraine (the US has been better, although but not by much); if the US had as much power over Europe as you think we do, we would have just told Europe to up production and they would have. But this did not happen.


Gangs also offer to "defend" local businesses from other gangs.


And friends offer to help friends. Enough of this nefariousness.


I am afraid there are no such thing as "friends" when it comes to international politics...


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You broke the site guidelines extremely badly in this thread—way over the line at which we ban accounts. Moreover, you've been doing it in other threads too - e.g.:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39682943

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39636608

and we've already asked you once: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39362247.

I'm not going to ban you right now but we need you to review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and start following the rules strictly. No more personal attacks, especially.


You, sir, are a linguist [1]!

[1] https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2518


You also broke the site guidelines repeatedly in this thread, including with personal attacks. I know the other commenter was being provocative, but it's not ok to post the way you did in response.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it. Note this one:

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."


You’re right. Sorry. Didn’t realise the original accusation hit a nerve—that’s on me. (Thank you.)




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