He won the fucking Turing. I think you can rock your CV alongside “he’s such a hack”.
I’ve met the guy a few times (briefly), and I’m aware of his general vibe. I don’t agree with him about everything, but “hack” is absurd, and I’m not posting about who is a hack (or even a crook) under a burner alt.
Just because he made a good thing decades ago doesn’t mean he has any clue about what is going on now.
Many of us actually work in the field and are tired of the mindless hype and self promotion. LeCun is just upset people aren’t hyping his crap rather than OpenAIs.
But I’m sure you can give a good reason why he calls it self supervised instead of unsupervised and JEPA instead of BYOL or data2vec and what his actual contributions to the field of modern representation learning are.
Pauling had a Nobel, didn’t stop him being a crank about vitamin C.
I didn’t say you can’t criticize household names with the highest honor in their field.
I’m saying that it takes some cheek to say there’s nothing original about results that many experts (who are nothing to do with me, and me in a narrow way) think are pretty hot shit.
I try (and sometimes fail) to confine my strident claims requiring strident evidence to topics I’m willing and able to get into the nitty gritty on, and bring my CV and reputation to the party as a courtesy. Anyone can post biased-sounding shit and hand-wave over the substance of the claim under an 11-month burner named with malice aforethought to talk shit and be able to disavow it.
I gave you a rather firm tap on the shoulder about how borderline at best this move is, and under the assumption you’ve got an HN main, you know this.
I had hoped you might put the effort that went into doubling down into explaining the apparently obvious prior art, the whataboutism kick flip into the Shockley Race IQ trope made zero people more enlightened and steered a contentious thread even further off the rails. Nobel laureates do in fact go off the friggin rails from time to time, but I don’t think LeCun is an interesting comparison to Kary Mulis past “AM Radio yelling”. I’m calling that one out.
Maybe elaborate on a pretty debatable claim instead?
This is the most hilarious internet tough guy shit I've ever seen.
Like literally just read the papers I mentioned. Or don't, I don't care. I have literally no clue who you are so maybe take your creepy-as-fuck "firm tap on the shoulder" and wanting to see my "cv" shit somewhere else.
We all go out of bounds on HN norms from time to time, and myself more than many.
I generally appreciate the feedback that I’ve landed there.
This isn’t seeming to be going anywhere useful and I’m going to respectfully bow out. If you’ve got to have the last word, go to town: but do it by posting the links to the papers for those who haven’t read them.
I’ve pulled some dumb stunts on HN, even some recently, but I’ll stand behind there being no Navy Seal Copypasta flex here for the record.
I’ve met the guy a few times (briefly), and I’m aware of his general vibe. I don’t agree with him about everything, but “hack” is absurd, and I’m not posting about who is a hack (or even a crook) under a burner alt.
What’s your Fields medal for?