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> Most “nones” believe in God or another higher power

this is

1) a bit misleading to call them "nones"... what about the actual nones who simply don't believe anything at all?

2) disappointing and fundamentally different from eg northern europe where it's fine and common to simply not believe in anything at all, without feeling any huge need to "correct" that



They're called "none" because that's how they categorize their religion: "none", when surveyed. This has been a group that has been watched and talked about this way for at least a decade, the "nones" have been growing.


You're thinking of agnostics/atheists. Having no religion is different from not believing in a god.


Those who don't believe in anything at all are atheists.

atheist noun a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.


> Those who don't believe in anything at all are atheists.

We atheists believe things. We just don't believe in gods.

You can find spiritual atheists and superstitious atheists and atheists who are flat earthers. All manner of nonsense. But they don't believe in gods.

Some people use "nihilism" to mean belief in nothing, but there are self-proclaimed nihilists who are offended at that.


Also

antitheist

a person opposed to belief in god or gods.

In this day and age many atheists feel the need to be antitheist.


Do they? I haven't run into this attitude organically outside of HN in years at this point. I mean a new cohort of 15-year-olds is always discovering richard dawkins. But the most ferocious organized online atheists seem to have realized they share a lot of values with the new far right and reached a sort of quiet compromise about the religion thing.




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