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Dupont will see that this never sees the light of day. Just like how we don't use butane/propane/CO2 as refrigerants which are just as safe as most of the flourocarbons but have the downside of being too cheap to make any money off of.


Isobutane is one of the most common refrigerants in use today...

Chemical companies do plenty of actual evil things, there is no need to spread false claims!


Is that why Dupont and Honeywell have been sued repeatedly for anticompetitive practices when it comes to refrigerants?

HC's are gaining in popularity but they are being fought every step of the way because they are cheap and there's no money to be made.


Having looked into it more, it appears it is on a country by country basis. And for some uses, flammable refrigerants are not allowed, which further complicates things.


Well they're also inflammable and not as good as CFCs. Kinda how we don't use toxic ammonia as a refrigerant.

For what it's worth, my mini fridge and my chest freezer use some hydrocarbon refrigerant. They're littered with warning signs not to puncture them.


Most of the FC's are highly toxic when exposed to fire.

R-1234yf is not only (slightly) flammable but also releases hydrogen fluoride and carbonyl fluoride when exposed to fire, but this is what is in almost all new cars.

I've run a propane/butane mix in an R12 car before and the fact that it was flammable didn't bother me a bit. The 14 gallons of gas would worry me more than 12oz of propane going up.


> Kinda how we don't use toxic ammonia as a refrigerant.

Ammonia is definitely still used as a refrigerant, just not in consumer equipment. It’s commonly used for ice rink chillers, at least in the US and Canada. Not sure about Europe.


"just not in consumer equipment."

that's key isn't it? Ammonia is corrosive and consumers are often not too bright.


The most efficient air-to-water heatpumps are using propane. Just look for lambda and ovum from Austria.




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