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People will leave Youtube once enough bullshit piles on. There is a point. The question is, will Google push it and trigger an exodus? I'm not sitting through ads to watch stuff. I'd rather not watch things at all than watch ads.

Peer to peer networks are still around. Vimeo still exists. Pretty sure DailyMotion and friends also still exist.

PeerTube and other stuff are making it easier for video communities to support themselves.

Eventually the only thing Youtube will be good for is supporting influencers and whatever mainstream media BS is going on.



But the people spending time making the content at a quality that’s not a shaky 320p video are not going to those because they rather make money via ads. So the users won’t leave


Most of the people who upload content to YouTube are doing it because of the ads. So many people have managed to become full-time YouTubers because of the revenue sharing from ads. And these people upload the content that we all enjoy watching. It's a virtuous cycle that I don't think can be replicated with PeerTube.


> And these people upload the content that we all enjoy watching.

Maybe you should speak only for yourself. It is possible that most people uploading to youtube do it because of the adds, but there are plenty of people who have other reasons. Most people I watch regularly do not even have enough views to get any add revenue. There are plenty of us who prefer contents that was not created with adds in mind.


Not speaking just for myself, there are millions of us who watch and subscribe to YouTube channels to support the creators. I would argue that you're in the niche if you're only watching content from creators that do not want to grow their channel or earn any revenue from it.


I don't understand this viewpoint. There are plenty of us who find YouTube useful and willing to pay for the service. I'm not as sure as you are that an exodus will happen.


I’d also be willing to pay for YouTube, if it ever splits from Google.

Definitely not giving Google any money.


The same kind of folks who refused to accept the reality of MP3 and punted Ogg Vorbis.

Is it really worth $13.99 to die on - nope it is not.


That's $13.99/mo, so it's $168/yr or so. I don't even spend that much on games every year. Youtube is stupid if they think I'll pay $14/mo for access to anything.


But how much you spend eating out/DoorDash/Uber Eats in a month ???.


You are mistaken. I may be on the Orange Site, but I am in fact not an entrepreneur or a techbro pulling $100+K/yr. I'm not rich enough to waste money on delivery services.

I recently got mad that the Wendy's biggy bag went to $7 and eat out less because I'm not paying $10+ for a single meal unless it's something I can't (easily) make at home. You can't get Subway for less than $12, and it's a fucking sandwich.

Most of my frivolous spending is on caffeine and THC. If I manage to cut those two out I'd save a bunch but then what would I have fun with? :(


When we switched to WFH during Covid I bought a bean expresso machine as a Nespresso pods really did not do it for me - saved a fuckton of money - now I just need to get an icemaker for making iced coffee in summer.

It has been a decade since we had a TV in our household - it just laptops, tablets, phones and a PS5 for my gamer kid - so it's just Spotify/Youtube for them plus TikTok for downtime.

I rarely watch movies - think Spiderman No Way Home was the last one.


If you can afford it after cutting those two out, YouTube.

What's your local price for weed? Is the hours of entertainment from YouTube not worth a joint or whatever?


No, not really. I don't use Youtube as much as other people. I'm not getting "hours of entertainment" out of it. I don't check out what's recommended to me, I don't follow any influencers or monetized channels, I don't even have a Google account for anything except buying apps on the Play store.

Youtube is a place for me to listen to game OSTs. A weekend with VPN access and the right protocols could make my entire usage of the site obsolete.

Google simply doesn't do anything worthy of my money. Google and all its properties could disappear tomorrow and my personal computing would barely be affected. Same for Microsoft. There are ways to insulate yourself from being treated like a wallet to dip into at will.


So why are you fine with what they do?


>People will leave YouTube once enough bullshit piles on

Not convinced. Many watch influencers and monetized channels and they won't leave.


I'm surprised more content creators do not upload their content to other platforms. the video is already made. is yt really the ONLY monetizing platform outthere?


YouTube is the best monetized platform for videos. TikTok is notorious for paying terribly. I don't think Facebook pays much either. You pay Vimeo to host videos on their platform.

The other alternatives like Nebula and Floatplane paywall all viewers, and doesn't seem open to new creators without a viewerbase.


lol, no.... ppl will continue using it and eventually will start paying or will switch to shortform content on tiktok/ig


Given the amount of incredible content I don't see myself ever leaving YouTube. Instead of complaining about "the bullshit" I simply pay a few shekels a month for premium, which is easily worth it.

I have tried Peer Tube many times. It, to be frank, sucks.




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