Still has ads hardcoded in videos. Still has Google surveillance capitalism. Still sends other people videos for free which means you're paying for the privilege of segmenting yourself into the upper echelons of the market where the people with disposable income are, driving the value of your attention up and making them want to advertise to you even more.

> Still has ads hardcoded in videos.

You're talking about when the content creator puts an ad in their video? What would you have Google do about that?

> You're talking about when the content creator puts an ad in their video?

Correct.

> What would you have Google do about that?

Block them. Just like we do.

Netflix should also block movies with product placement. /s

On a more serious note, that would be google editorializing the content which I don't want. If a channel is advertising their upcoming tour, or advertising Patreon or Nebula, should google block them too? Do you want google's content policy to prevent users from mentioning or showing any product?

You're free to only watch creators that don't put ads in their videos you know.

> Netflix should also block movies with product placement.

Absolutely.

One day someone much smarter than me will create an AI ad blocker that removes that sort of thing in real time.

> On a more serious note, that would be google editorializing the content which I don't want.

Have users collectively catalogue segments of the videos then. Pretty much what Sponsor Block does. I'm sure the highly paid engineers at Google can figure it out.

> If a channel is advertising their upcoming tour, or advertising Patreon or Nebula, should google block them too?

I don't consider those things advertising. I think they're just information. If I'm watching a video from a creator whose work I enjoy, I want to know where to find more stuff.

Getting paid deals from third parties and advertising their products on your video is a completely different matter. I didn't open the video to watch that.

> You're free to only watch creators that don't put ads in their videos you know.

God people repeat this like it's a mantra.

I'm free to do any number of things. Including blocking the segments I don't like and watching only the parts I care about. Why can't people accept that?

Besides, it's not like the videos come with a warning that tells you you're gonna be advertised to. The transition to the ad is abrupt and sudden on purpose so you can't even react.

> I don't consider those things advertising.

Ah I got it. We should check with you what you consider an ad or not then inform google’s content policy based on that. That makes sense.

> I'm free to do any number of things.

You’re the one wanting to take that freedom from others.

> We should check with you what you consider an ad or not

Hey, if you consider someone's patreon to be advertising, feel free to block all of it. You'll get no opposition from me.

> You’re the one wanting to take that freedom from others.

Not at all. I just defend myself when others try to take away my freedom. It's honestly offensive to me that Google even thinks they can use my computer to show me ads. It's my computer and I decide what is or isn't shown.

How are they taking away your freedom to pay for youtube?

This thread is about Google or Netflix blocking in-video/in-movie ads. It's a freedom to experience a creative expression in the way its creator made it. Should Netflix just never air Barbie or Transformers or LEGO movie because they are basically just one big ad? Should Google or Netflix even be in the business of deciding which part of a movie or an uploaded video is an ad or a sponsorship or monetize-able? matheusmoreira is suggesting they check with him first and he can decide which part should be blocked and which is ok.

What if you have a product placement for jack daniels because the character in your movie is the type of character that will chug jack. Should it be up to Netflix to decide "umm, no, this character now drinks Mack Lanyals" who cares what the film maker made?

My bad, I've misread his post. I don't agree with his idea of having Google block those segments, because as you've made clear, choosing what part of a video counts as an ad is very subjective.

However, the alternative isn't watching unsponsored videos, it's using SponsorBlock to block the parts that you don't want (or just skipping ahead).

It's up to the viewer to decide what part of a video they don't want to watch, and there's a reason Netflix has a 'skip intro' button: it's annoying, repetitive, and takes you out of the story the video creator is trying to tell.

You and I may not consider a 5 second ad for jack daniels obnoxious, but some people do, and they should be able to skip ahead, instead of only watching content without these ads like you suggest.