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Uh. That's definitely a statement.

Can you tell me with a straight face that China's actions in the Pacific are not impacted by the US strategic nuclear arsenal?



Yes. US’s military power is due to having 11 aircraft carrier groups “and no healthcare”, gigantic military spendings, and madlads at the commands who don’t mind reducing Irak to ashes on a whim, or going to UN Security Council to shake a phial pretending to be “proof that they have WMD” (thanks Colin Powell), while never finding them, and having worldwide systems to spy every electronic device.

I’m not saying I dislike US dominance, but at least, the nuclear option is nothing compared to the rest of their spendings.


Does Pakistan has the same geopolitical influence as the US from the atomic bomb? Or France?

Being a nuclear power is something shared by a few, but the US dominance has no equal.

It's pretty clear that the US leadership mostly comes from its economic power, which it used to derive from its industrial strength and is now more reliant on its technological superiority (since it has sold its industry to China, which may end up as a very literal execution of the famous quote from Lenin about capitalists selling the rope to hang them).


> Does Pakistan has the same geopolitical influence as the US from the atomic bomb? Or France?

Or even the Russian Federation, which may be a better comparison: I think it was only the USA and the USSR (from whom modern Russia inherited all the weapons) who decided to fight over arsenal size well beyond the point of MAD, rather than keep to the cheapest deterrent against a first strike.

That said, IMO the USA's strategic dominance between the end of WW2 and the fall of the USSR was significantly influenced by them having nukes, even though they didn't use them and I think they had more than they needed for mere deterrence — it mattered then more than now.


The US and the USSR were both the biggest economic powers and the biggest industrial powers back then.

If anything, I think nukes actually reduced their strategic dominance because it prevented conventional conflicts because the fear of escalation and they couldn't use it nukes aggressively anyway (the US / China/ USSR love triangle in the 60-70 is a good example of that).




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