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Remember you can get an HP Prodesk G3 400 or some such for $60 refurbed with far more hardware capabilities if you don't need the portable form factor, gpio, or power consumption.

It's actually a better deal for home servers.



I just bought a 10th gen i5 laptop with 16gb of ram for $60 off of ebay. HP c640 chromebook. Fast enough to run a 7B LLM at 1-2 tokens/sec


Electricity is something you have to pay for for always-on computers:

Prodesk G3: 24 hours * 365 days * 35W * 1000W/kW * $0.30/kWh = $91

Raspberry Pi 5: 24 hours * 365 days * 12W * 1000W/kW * $0.30/kWh = $31

It's likely that 12W over-counts for the Raspberry Pi 5 and 35W under-counts for the Intel chip, so it might be even worse than this.


Right, I agree, but electricity prices are variable and location dependent, for example, it doesn't cost me 30c/kwh, it's more like 5 cents and 3 cents depending on the time.

With that logic, the $20 in difference of $30 per year vs $10 per year of Pi is fairly meaningless for performance boost I am getting.

If your electricity is expensive, sure, but I imagine the performance boost would be worth it for an actual homeserver that a G3 can make vs a tinkering/fun project you can make with a Pi.


You're comparing a CPU that became generally available in 2017 or earlier (i.e., the 7th-gen or 6th-gen Core CPU in the Prodesk G3) with a more much recent CPU.


I didn't invite the comparison. The comment I was replying to said to buy this exact model of computer instead of a Raspberry Pi 5.


"or some such" also being there :P


What do they idle at? I have two home servers that are essentially at idle 24/7.


$0.30/kWh is 3x the average US price of electricity.


california goes from .30 - .50 per kwh - thanks to regulatory capture and pg&e

wait...

https://www.pge.com/tariffs/Res_Inclu_TOU_Current.xlsx

I can't tell what my current rate really is, but seems like average is 38.2c/kwh


And like a lot of things related to California, the issues there are unique to the state.


the new intel m100 nuc platform chip is probably where its at.

yes its double the price, but in terms of power usage its ~4 watts at the plug at 50% load, (vs 30) and more over a million times faster.




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