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They have a fanatical enemy today who will not negotiate or stop hostilities until Israel is gone. Again how should they solve this problem now?


'Solving' it without losses on the Israeli side and without giving up settlements and giving guarantees about the future is not going to happen.

'now' implies that both sides back down from their frankly ridiculous stances and that in turn would require both sides to drop some fragments of their religion and to start controlling the hardliners in their factions. But as long as Arab money and Iranian weapons subsidize Hamas, as long as Israel sabotages any kind of compromise or real government on the Palestinian side and as long as settlers continue to piecemeal expand the size of the state of Israel this isn't going to happen.

You can't have change without wanting change and you can't solve a problem if neither side really wants it solved. Israel would like Palestine to disappear and pretty much all of the Arab world wants Israel to disappear. If that doesn't change eventually one of these groups is going to get their way and that would be a loss for the world as a whole because I predict that that stain will not be easily washed away if at all.


>> all of the Arab world wants Israel to disappear

Most, but not all of them.

>> Israel would like Palestine to disappear

There is more than a million Palestinians living and working in Israel as its citizens. They hold positions in offices even such as a supreme court judge.

>> as long as settlers continue to piecemeal expand the size of the state of Israel this isn't going to happen.

Israel removed all its settlers from Gaza in 2005. In return it received shelling from Hamas.

Hamas in not interested in solving anything, having talks about anything or making any kind of compromises.


> Most, but not all of them.

That's fair.

> There is more than a million Palestinians living and working in Israel as its citizens. They hold positions in offices even such as a supreme court judge.

You equate 'Palestine' with 'Palestinians', that's not the same thing. It's on par with equating Israel with Israeli's and many would point out that there is a very important distinction between the two.

> Israel removed all its settlers from Gaza in 2005.

Yes, but they kept on settling more and more area in the West bank and continue to do so even today, almost two decades later. It's akin to removing 'whites' from areas that were to be turned into 'homelands' prior to the establishment of the 'Apartheid' doctrine in South Africa, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan , there are a lot of parallels between those and Gaza / West Bank.

> In return it received shelling from Hamas.

In 2005 Hamas was a fringe group and all eyes were on the Palestinian Authority, which Israel has structurally undermined while at the same time supporting Hamas.

> Hamas in not interested in solving anything, having talks about anything or making any kind of compromises.

Neither are the Israeli hardliners who make a lot of policy.




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