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I can probably find the Israeli paper article from the first day of the war but you said you won't believe it anyway. So what's the point?

What evidence do you have that the Israeli intelligence was wrong in this case?




When people are asking for evidence. They are asking about hard evidence that prove the claim. The claim here that it was bombed because it contains hamas offices used for military purposes and this is why isreal bombed. Well isreal by your say have some evidence that it was the case. Did they provide this evidence?

The evidence here is not a press release of isreali government/military saying that they destroyed it because it was being used by hamas for military purposes. They can say whatever they want and you can do, but without providing evidence this becomes a lie.

Note that I am here talking about very specific case and claim. If you want to say hamas lie too that's fine but completely irrelevant in our context here.

We are talking about this specific claim and this specific claims because I don't want this to go in general direction.

And the burden of proof is on you not you. You claimed something and you should provide the evidence. Don't try to tweak things by redirecting the question


Again. I don't have that but you don't have the counter evidence that it didn't exist. Show me evidence of any bombing from any western country in any campaign ever...

I get that Israel should be held to a higher standard than the Hamas. But your specific attitude makes no sense. Intelligence information is internal, wartime bombings target decisions are privileged information.


> I don't have that but you don't have the counter evidence that it didn't exist

This is not the problem, people who claim something have to provide the evidence if asked, you don't respond to them by re-directing the question and ask them for counter-proof. At least in the normal world. I don't know about you.

> I get that Israel should be held to a higher standard than the Hamas

Providing evidence to claims is now a higher standard? man you live in a wild world.

> But your specific attitude makes no sense. Intelligence information is internal, wartime bombings target decisions are privileged information

So they can attack and kill anyone and claim they were military targets, and when asked for evidence then they will not provide because it is internal? Do you know what claims without evidence can be considered, yes propaganda like the one you tried to spread in this comment which is our discussion context.


> Providing evidence to claims is now a higher standard? man you live in a wild world.

Yep, that's the world we live in. Politicians, corporations, journalists frequently don't. Even "scientists" from time to time fake data & results. Military at least have a valid reason for not publicizing intel, specially in times of war.


> This is not the problem, people who claim something have to provide the evidence if asked

No we don't. However, I did provide evidence which you choose to ignore. You also claim that the army would bomb a place for no real reason which just doesn't make sense. Especially for the first target in a campaign. It's you who should provide evidence, not me.

> > But your specific attitude makes no sense. Intelligence information is internal, wartime bombings target decisions are privileged information > > So they can attack and kill anyone and claim they were military targets, and when asked for evidence then they will not provide because it is internal?

Nonsense. This is an attack on a building. Bombing is a coarse instrument and the IDF holds regular briefings where they provide evidence.

All the papers spent a day claiming Israel bombed a hospital killing 500 people. Total lie and the Hamas knew it when they came out with it. The IDF gathers and provides evidence for relevant situations (e.g. the Hospital bombing). It is accountable unlike the Hamas which is not.


> No we don't

Thank you, that was the answer that you should just say from the beginning.


> When people are asking for evidence. They are asking about hard evidence that prove the claim.

Are you for real expecting this for an ongoing war still in its early days? I'm not saying those questions shouldn't be asked and of course the IDF will make mistakes but you are being unreasonable.

> They can say whatever they want and you can do, but without providing evidence this becomes a lie.

It's not necessarily a lie, just not verified yet.

> If you want to say hamas lie too that's fine but completely irrelevant in our context here.

It's not irrelevant. Hamas and the IDF are not equivalent.

It's a long established fact that Hamas modus operandi is terrorism. Recently the Hamas lied that the IDF bombed an hospital and killed 500 Palestinians, there is ample evidence that this was a blatant lie. All over the Internet there are reports/videos that show Hamas faking stuff to generate commotion.

Israel military intelligence is one of the best in the world. The IDF go steps further than any other country in history to minimize collateral damage. They warn civilians in the area before striking, they use roof knockers.




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