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AirTags are the only tracking device that have any kind of anti-stalking protection. Literally the only one that does anything at all.

And yet it gets all the flak.

People are stupid.



> AirTags are the only tracking device that have any kind of anti-stalking protection

But only if you own an iPhone, or have a specific Android app open.


> But only if you own an iPhone, or have a specific Android app open.

No. Not if only. If they have been away from their paired phone for more than a few hours, they beep whenever they are moved.

And I remind you that all competing trackers have no anti-stalker functions at all.


This is not true at all. Maybe for AirTags themselves, but EarPods are the same trackers and they do no such thing. My partner has been getting plagued with notifications that an EarPod is tracking her location, but she cannot find where it is. This has been happening for nearly a month. An option is given on the iPhone to disable the tracking, but you need physical access to the device for it. Also a suggestion is given to notify the police, but you need to have the serial number for that. Which again requires physical access to the device.

All this while she’s been actively involved in a court case for establishing a restraining order against a domestic abuser of hers.

If Apple actually cared they’d allow you to disable from the app. As is they’re just paying lip service to the abused while actively aiding the abusers.


> If Apple actually cared they’d allow you to disable from the app. As is they’re just paying lip service to the abused while actively aiding the abusers.

Then the value of the product would be zero, because thieves would disable it remotely.

The stupid beeping is already annoying if I happen to have BT off and jiggle my own keys.

But: how is that AirPod not running out of battery?


You aren’t getting it back from a thief. You’re getting it back from where you accidentally left it.

I don’t know about battery. She hasn’t seen a notification in a bit. Maybe it ran its course. A whole lot of unnecessary stress along the way though.


> No. Not if only. If they have been away from their paired phone for more than a few hours, they beep whenever they are moved.

Far more than a few — I am away from mine all day and they don't beep when moved. Apple apparently says it's somewhere between 8 and 24 hours. Also, they don't have to be right up against the paired phone — if someone is stalking a neighbor in apartment building, they probably come close enough to fool the system.

Most importantly, it's trivial to disable the beeping: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/muted-airtags-danger#:~:text=....


The other tracking devices have no anti-stalking protection, regardless of your phone or app.


Don't the airtags themselves beep?


Yes. AirTags which are separated from their owner beep unless they are in a designated “ok to be left here” location.


Unfortunately, that feature can be easily disabled.


By physically modifying it?


Yes. Then you have the perfect stalking/tracking device.

It's the same for other trackers, ie Samsung SmartTags, just disconnect the internal speaker and you're good to go.

A tag that works as a silent car tracker and helps to recover your car is great. The same tag, but used to stalk someone else's car? Not that great.

I guess this is why we can't have nice things.


> have a specific Android app open

Google integrated this into Android, no need for an AirTags detection app anymore.


It is of course much more useful to sue the well-known billion dollar company than some fly by night endeavor where your contact information is ‘China’.


AirTags are also made by a company with a lot of money for a settlement.


While that's true, the AirTag network is much more valuable for stalking.

Most people don't have a specific competitors tracking app on their phone, so the network is much smaller and location updates much rarer.

On the other hand. Every iPhone is by default an airtag location reporter, not only making the network much larger, but also, importantly, making it very likely that the targets phone, if it's an iPhone, will actively be reporting on itself, bring effectively as good as a gps tracker.

While this doesn't rule out the possibility of another tracker being used for stalking, it does make it dramatically more important for Apple to solve this.


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This is a terribly bad faith argument. Apart from anything else, comparing AirTags to guns is absurd.

However, as I said in another comment, if they have been away from their paired phone for more than a few hours, they beep whenever they are moved. Even if you have no phone at all.


So you're saying that the SAFEST of all tracking devices should be the one used as a test-case to set a legal precedent against the harm that tracking devices could cause?

This reminds of the legal urban-myth(?) where if you grievously injure someone but had the intent to kill them, you get less time than if you didn't intend to hurt them at all.


Then Apple would be the only company making a gun that warned anyone, and you're saying that would make them worse than all the companies making intentionally concealable guns.

Which is what happens with the other tracker devices: there is no notification for anyone with any device. Even on android where apple presumably doesn't have the ability to do whatever low power level stuff that's apparently required they have an app.

Other trackers don't have anything that warns people. Tile does do something at least: there's an anti-theft mode that requires a government id to use. Except that's still 100% dependent on the victim knowing that they're being stalked.




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