> how they all act as if the majority of the websites their users are going to aren't HTTPS and they act like their main benefits are filling in the gaps that HTTPS actually fills in.
I hear most of them saying "Don't want your ISP spying on where you're browsing? Use a VPN." Which HTTPS does not cover.
With HTTPS, ISPs can see _where_ you are browsing, but not _what_ you are browsing. Of course them seeing the top level domain still violates certain aspects of privacy, personally I’d prefer ISPs couldn’t even see that. But it’s not like they are peering into the actual content of what you are browsing.
True, and with the rise of CDNs it's probably even harder to figure out what's happening. But it still gives them more info than is necessary, given they like keeping logs for the powers that be.
I hear most of them saying "Don't want your ISP spying on where you're browsing? Use a VPN." Which HTTPS does not cover.