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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, and we ban accounts that post like this.

Separately, and equally important: can you please stop using HN for ideological and political battle? It looks like you've been using HN primarily for this and that's another line at which we ban an account, regardless of what they're battling for or against.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


It's not that you're stupid, it's just that your standard of evidence you will accept around this crisis is embarrassingly low.


We have a phone call recording of Victoria Nuland picking the president of Ukraine.


I would like to hear it, please post it...


What do you mean by "picking"?


By all means, produce the recording!


1. BBC transcript of the recording

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

2. Nuland acknowledging recording is genuine

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-26079591


Neither of these are "picking the next president of Ukraine", what you're seeing is how the sausage is made - every country has their interests.


They are picking who will be the prime minister and who will not be the deputy prime minister - Klitschko


In what way are they picking? This is normal diplomatic discussion where all parties know how little influence they have...




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