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> I DO agree with OP that you _shouldn't_ state what your current salary/comp is (unless you don't care about negotiating on comp but want to ensure you maintain what you're making).

I wonder how much of this information the companies already have access to. Like, they probably use ADP or Paychex as their payroll service, and I wouldn't be surprised if they can ask the payroll company or just look up what you currently make.

The last time I interviewed (at a FAANG), they didn't do any kind of negotiation dance about pay. They didn't ask me what I make or what I wanted. After the interviewing, they said "Here's your offer, it is non-negotiable." and lo and behold it was about 0.2% or so above what I was currently making. Like a difference of under $500 for the yearly figure. Uncanny how they came so close! I tried negotiating but they were indeed unwilling to negotiate on anything.



I was also told my FAANG offer was non-negotiable.

After declining it, for reasons of pay and location, I got a call back 5 minutes later, with a better location, and ~12% more money on the table.

(Junior position in 2012)


Is it just me or does that seem really scummy on the part of the company??


No scummier than a candidate that's not seriously interviewing for a job, and is instead just fishing for counter-offers.


That worked in 2012, but I highly doubt it would work in 2023.


Why not? If you’re truly willing to walk away from an offer, non-negotiable ones often turn out to be malleable.


You will just walk away, and another from the large stack of candidates who passed the interview process will accept that same offer. Engineers just have become much more easily obtainable and replaceable.


Not in my experience ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Just to make sure: nit in your experience in 2023?


Engineers with a bunch of hard to find skills are still hard to find.


It might work in 2024, or 2025, if the market improves, though.


They probably do have access to that in some circumstances, but then you can start plying them about other benefits. Just because two jobs pay the same doesn’t mean I value them the same.




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