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> podman on mac [..] the idea of daemonless-rootless is enticing

Did you realize that there's a daemon on podman for mac (https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-system-serv...)?

Are you aware it runs rootful podman, not rootless podman?

And why do you care about those things if it's self-contained in a linux VM anyway, where there's already plenty of daemons, and plenty of root?



The doc you linked to specifically says there is no daemon on Windows and Mac.

I am confused.


The podman CLI tool compiled for mac doesn't allow you to run the daemon on macOS natively.

The way podman desktop works includes running a podman daemon by default inside the podman linux VM. That's the daemon I'm talking about.

The docker cli also runs on mac, but the docker daemon doesn't run on macOS directly, but instead as a daemon inside the linux VM.

Hence, in podman desktop on macOS, just like docker desktop on macOS, you have a similar daemon running inside the linux VM that's launched.

Do you understand now?


also check out podman desktop (podman-desktop.io) .. easy for desktop development and integration if you're on a mac or windows




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