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Interesting. They had a major refactor of their paywall in August 2019. Maybe that turns people off to posting content that isn’t unique to the NYT. Or maybe paywalled articles are less likely to make the HN front page (?).

https://open.nytimes.com/we-re-launched-the-new-york-times-p...




Drilling in on my data by month, it looks as if July or August, 2019, was the switch-over, with another big hit in Dec 2019 / Jan 2020:

   2018-1 *************************************************************************
   2018-2 ************************************************************
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   2018-4 *********************************************************************
   2018-5 ***********************************************************************
   2018-6 *******************************************************************
   2018-7 ****************************************
   2018-8 ********************************************
   2018-9 ****************************************************************
  2018-10 *************************************************
  2018-11 *****************************************************
  2018-12 ****************************************************************
   2019-1 ************************************************
   2019-2 *************************************************
   2019-3 ************************************************
   2019-4 *******************************************************************
   2019-5 *******************************************************************
   2019-6 *****************************************************************
   2019-7 ******************************
   2019-8 ******************************************
   2019-9 ************************************************
  2019-10 ********************************************
  2019-11 ***********************************
  2019-12 ********************************
   2020-1 ************
   2020-2 ************
   2020-3 *****************
   2020-4 ************
   2020-5 *******
   2020-6 *******
   2020-7 ************
   2020-8 ************
   2020-9 *******
  2020-10 *******************
  2020-11 ********
  2020-12 *****************
(July seems to be an annual slump in HN -- NYT submissions for some reason, which confounds analysis somewhat.)

(Apologies to mobile readers ;-)


I for one won't upvote a paywalled article.


That's one hypothesis I'm considering.

It'd be interesting to, say, look at a number of sites which have gone paywall and see how that impact on HN front-page posts.

Off the top of my head, some of those would be:

- NYTimes

- WSJ

- Quora

- WaPo

- LA Times

If anyone has a handy list, especially with dates, I'd appreciate it.

Here's the top 40 "general news" sites with barplots by year. I know that NYT, WSJ, WaPo, LA Times, telegraph.co.uk, and possibly a few others have paywalls and may have implemented them over this period. Pastebin to spare readers here another monster text post, expires in a month:

<https://pastebin.com/raw/nmNXyE8G>


Paywall dates:

- NY Times: ~August 2019

- BBC: none

- The Guardian: none

- Washington Post: June 2013. <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5829206> HN traffic actually rose. Tightened markedly in 2018: <https://web.archive.org/web/20171213135245/https://reason.co...>

- Reuters: April 2021 <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26820053>

- NPR: none

- CNN: none

- Slate: 2015 (International readers) <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9821492>

- Vice: none?

- LA TImes: Paywalled, 2012. <https://www.huffpost.com/entry/la-times-paywall_n_1299997>

- CNet: none

- Yahoo: none

- SFGate: 2015 <https://old.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/2sj78h/death_spira...>

- cbc.ca: none

- CNBC: none

- guardian.co.uk: none

- vox.com: none (though discussed)

- salon.com: none?

Mixed bag on impacts, though I suspect paywalls going up or tightening has a lot to do with FP story trends.




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