Can you elaborate how the patches, bug reports, package maintenance, etc, do not benefit the "builders' community"? They all go to the same upstream.
And what exactly do you mean by "builders' community", do you actually mean "Red Hat"?
By "not participate in" do you mean "not pay your employer"? Which we do, actually. Just wired a good chunk of money to Red Hat the other day, ostensibly earmarked for supporting the Fedora project.
The builders community is where the next EL is built. It's Fedora ELN and CentOS Stream. You made your choice to keep focusing on "bug-for-bug" downstream instead, that's fine but I like it less than working together with Red Hat, Alma, Facebook, Intel and others.
Red Hat's action didn't screw over the builders community. It did complicate things in the short term for part of the users community, but at the same time it showed a clear way forward for builders that would not screw over users. Red Hat's intention is to stick to what they have been saying for three years and coalesce builders around Fedora ELN and CentOS Stream; not to screw over users.
Hence my original remark: if you think all Red Hat wants is to screw over communities again and again, your definition of community is not the same as mine.
> ostensibly earmarked for supporting the Fedora project.
Thanks for that. I never said you don't support the rpm-/Fedora-based ecosystem as a whole, and I appreciate that you also do so monetarily.
And what exactly do you mean by "builders' community", do you actually mean "Red Hat"?
By "not participate in" do you mean "not pay your employer"? Which we do, actually. Just wired a good chunk of money to Red Hat the other day, ostensibly earmarked for supporting the Fedora project.