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This is the reason why we cannot take the Rust community seriously with these tantrums. We have given them enough time to get a grip on this nonsense and instead they are embarrassing themselves with pantomimes like this.

I had very high hopes on Rust, but it seems that they have to find another tiny first world issue to complain about and magnify it into a giant nothing.

Admittedly, this whole saga is more entertaining than the average pantomime but even that has its limits of banana slip-ups. There is a time where this 'entertainment' just turns into pure incompetence of this so-called community and its governance, which becomes very boring blazingly fast.



Yeah, this whole drama feels so unnecessary and stupid. If you feel a burning need to create a huge drama clusterfuck, have it about some controversial change to the language, not about a single talk at a conference. This is just a fucking waste of time.

As a casual Rust user, the message that I get from this is that I should not spend time with the Rust community.


Then some ideas of the post went over your head. Whenever there are people there will be drama, and you wrong when you lump together ordinary contributors and drama queen. A community is not a hivemind.


There is no other language community that has such an extreme level of evangelists that loves to create tantrums and outrage over the smallest things and blow it up out of proportion more times than Rust.

We have given the Rust 'community' and governance plenty of time to grow up and be less infantile and it doesn't seem that they want to be taken seriously at all with this melodrama.


It is not as if the C++ standards committee, or Google (go) or Oracle (Java) are free from drama. It just tends to leak into public view less frequently.


C++ and Java are huge. Drama or no drama simply stops to matter at that size. These languages are here to stay.

Golang is also becoming rather big, although doesn't make a big deal out of it imho, as the community is barely ever evangelizing about it. And so far, the only actual drama I am aware of, was the telemetry stuff, and that resolved itself nicely.


> C++ and Java are huge. Drama or no drama simply stops to matter at that size. These languages are here to stay.

That makes zero sense. Drama does not simply stop because a language gets big enough. Some of Java's drama made it all the way to the Supreme Court.


I think that's the point. Drama in the C++ community is handled more professionally, in the Rust community it turns into temper tantrums.


>I think that's the point. Drama in the C++ community is handled more professionally,

I'm very skeptical of this based on what I hear of committee meetings. And committee members occasionally snipe at each other in public on /r/cpp.




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